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[2013 TRC] New Zealand vs. Australia in Wellington (24/08/2013)

How about Bakkies Botha, biggest thug ever to disgrace the Springbok jersey.

You've already been told this under your "Rassie" username at RRF
RRF?
Burger would be a good choice too.
Whenever someone remark about Bok thuggery they bring up Bakkies and Schalk Burger.

Can you actually remember the last time they played for SA?

Can you list me the"thuggery" Burger was involved in apart from the alleged eye gouge, do you have anything else on him?

It is a perception mate, we play hard rugby, there is no denying that, that is why I appreciate hard rugby, problem is though, next time you accuse the Springboks of thuggery, find a new thug, a current one, and Greyling won't do as he has been kicked out of the Boks, but at least do me the favour of finding a current thug, and not someone that has not played for the boks in quite some time.
 
There's a certain irony about a springbok fan complaining about another team's forwards being thugs/breaking the rules.

We've had our fair share of thugs but generally (and unfortunately) don't push the rule book all that hard.
 
Jeesh, I would also like to know what Etzebeth has done other than lean in to Sharpe with a little touch of the head? Sure he is no gentleman but a thug? You're just jealous you couldn't lure him.
 
ANd list to me all the thuggish things Etzebeth has done?

He drove in an old Ford Explorer playing rap music.
He used 'ese' non ironically.
He reached high shelves at a supermarket and laughed at a guy in a wheelchair when he couldn't.
He sold heroin to minors.
He stole heroin from minors
He stole heroin money from minors.
He wore his cap sideways.
He bought a knuckle duster.
He bought a baseball bat but no baseballs
He bought a pitbull and taught it to hunt.
He hunts pitbulls.
What is an Ethzabeth?
 
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Not sure AB fans should be throwing stones when it comes to Thuggery! Has anyone watched Nonu over the last 6 months ;) Not sure what's happened to him. Anyone have the inside word?? I heard there is some pretty major stuff going on behind the scenes with him.
 
This is a pointless debate. Every nation has had and will continue to have the odd player who crosses the line in dirty play. There is a Bakkies Botha equivalent from every rugby playing country. Now and again teams seem to get a few at once.
 
This is a pointless debate. Every nation has had and will continue to have the odd player who crosses the line in dirty play. There is a Bakkies Botha equivalent from every rugby playing country. Now and again teams seem to get a few at once.

Exactly...

Time to move on and not use a guy like Bakkies to stereotype a team forever...

If we used that same tag when Sean Fitzpatrick bit another player's ear off, then the All Blacks would have been brandished as biters even now, yet we don't.
 
If we used that same tag when Sean Fitzpatrick bit another player's ear off, then the All Blacks would have been brandished as biters even now, yet we don't.


Err, excuse me. Aren't you missing a smiley there?

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ns-in-rugby-1724109.html?action=gallery&ino=9

Fitzpatrick was the victim of the ear-biting incident. The perpetrator was the thug Johan le Roux. He copped a 78 week ban from playing.

It was a punch by the same player that put Martin Johnson out of the England tour of South Africa in the same year.
 
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Err, excuse me. Aren't you missing a smiley there?

Fitzpatrick was the victim of the ear-biting incident. The perpetrator was the thug Johan le Roux. It was a punch by the same player that put Martin Johnson out of the England tour of South Africa in the same year.

Lol! Well done. Just checking...
 
I think we need to build a temple
Done and done.
Not sure AB fans should be throwing stones when it comes to Thuggery! Has anyone watched Nonu over the last 6 months ;) Not sure what's happened to him. Anyone have the inside word?? I heard there is some pretty major stuff going on behind the scenes with him.
And they're just as vilified for it when it happens.

Nonu is a thug/dumbass imo. And now that Tom Taylor is out for three weeks, he can breathe a sigh of relief of retaining his jersey, because they can't afford to lose his experience now. His stupid no arm tackles and dumass hospital passes would cause any other team the game. He constantly rushes up from the line, only to miss, jeopardising the defence.

Sick of all his selfish/boneheaded plays. I'd rather have anyone else there at 12.

Anyone.
 
I think it's a bit harsh to call Etzabeth a thug.

He obviously feels the need to impose himself on others though.
A very good quality to have as a lock... it's never going to endear him to people he's playing against.
That should subside fairly quickly now that he's established himself, on the other hand it could exacerbate it!
 
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