Aviva Premiership - Round 6

[goodNumber10]

My hole is it enforced everywhere - and where is it in the rulebook?

Tip tackles are in there. Tip ruck clearances? Tip challenges in the air?

The game is being reffed inconsistently using amendments and clarifications that being issued in private with no explanation to the general public.

F**k them.

If you hit someone in the air and they come down on their head it is a red.

AFAIW in any situation if you pick someone up your duty of care is to return them safely to the ground.

Is it because he used the term tip tackle?

 

[nickdnz]

Tip ruck clearences are all good? Umaga will be relieved..

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Bruce Craig looks like he should be best mates with David Cameron.
Everything about him screams "Slimy".

Que?

 

[goodNumber10]

Baths Wagon >>>>>>>>>>>>>their wheels.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Down to 12 now :lol:

Jeeze


Edit:
Tagi in for a try.


Love how Wasps all sprinted back to halfway to get the game started quicker to keep playing vs 13.

Wow that was horrendous defence from Wasps.

Bath two men down yet still managed a two man overlap out wide.

 

[goodNumber10]

Hope Daly was watching Joseph there....

 

[Tmartin995]

Wade's defensive positioning and decision making is horrendous. He gets away with it sometimes due to his pace, but he really needs to sort it out asap

 

[Patchey]

Leiua looked very good at 12, surprised he's off so seen.

I feel that Wasps pack without Launchbury isn't quite dynamic enough to keep up with some of those fab breaks the backs are making. Anyone else seeing that?

Could have let Bath back into this...

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

Poor decision from Doyle to give that put-in to Bath leading to the penalty; he was right on top of the action and really should have seen that Goode had the ball.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Rokoooooooooo

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

That is probably the single worst display of discipline I've seen. 3 yellows in under 10 minutes!? Mike Ford must be furious at the team as all of them were completely pointless. The last 20 showed what Bath could have done if they had been sensible but thanks to making a ton of really stupid decisions, they had to chase a game they had little chance of winning.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Very frustrating.

Cockroaches scrum dominated ours, our lineout throwing was off (as it has been a lot this season and last).
I think their scrum today shows you exactly how important a scrummaging lock is - compare it to with/without Davies.
As soon as we sorted that out (and got back to 15 players!) we were totally dominant.

 

[goodNumber10]

Happy with that win. But massive room for improvement. Think Daly should move from 13 and let Andre have the shirt and either challenge for 12 or 15.

Bath must be clawing their own faces after that self destruct sequence.... Wasps will be doing the same having only scored 2 against them in the same period.

However Bath were leaking points way before that implosion.

 

[Peat]

I like Daly at 15 - more space, more time, more use for his boot, these things seem to suit him - and wish they'd kept him there. I'm not sure why you think he'd make a better 12 than 13.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Don't think anyone imploded - apart from maybe Wilson, even then, that's a bit of an exaggeration.

The only area I think we were truly dominated in was the scrum.
The lineout wasn't a good source of possession for us either, but that was down to poor execution from us - not pressure.

Their defense was good, but then again - they didn't really have to stop much of our first-phase from set-piece because we couldn't secure possession.
That's been one of our strengths this season.

Three stupid yellow cards leaving us with only 12 players for a period and we still only conceded 2 tries.
Then when we finally got parity in the scrum we scored 3 tries in 25 mins.

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Had to go to hospital and check all was ok with my pregnant partner and baby after someone crashed into us. Luckily all is good!
— Joe Launchbury (@joe_launch) October 12, 2014​

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He's ok - phew.

And also - Burgess is 6 weeks away from playing apparently, will arrive in next 2-4 weeks.
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[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

Very frustrating.

Cockroaches scrum dominated ours, our lineout throwing was off (as it has been a lot this season and last).
I think their scrum today shows you exactly how important a scrummaging lock is - compare it to with/without Davies.
As soon as we sorted that out (and got back to 15 players!) we were totally dominant.

Think you're skipping over a couple of key facts here to get to that argument mate:
Firstly, before the Sale game when Yapp started Wasps had the statistically strongest scrum in the premiership - that's without a 'tight-head' lock (Davies made his first start today)
That continued against Bath today until A) James and Wilson came off and B) Yapp came on.
Ultimately, your second choice props simply did a much better job, though against slightly weaker props.
Also, you also had a tight head lock on the field so surely the two 'roughly' cancel each other out?

 

[Peat]

He wasn't saying your scrum was on top because you had a TH lock and they didn't, but rather Davies going off changed things and showed how valuable he was - I think.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Right ^

It was when Davies went off that we started to gain the upper hand - Yapp came on about 10 minutes later.

Scrum stats literally only say whether you completed the scrum or not.
They don't tell you whether you have been dominating the opposition - if your scrum is going backwards 5 metres everytim, but you still manage to come away with possession then you will have a 100% scrum record statistically.
According to the stats, we had a better scrum than you today.

 

[Draggs]

Seems like the scrum went better once Wilson was replaced by Thomas!

 

[ratsapprentice]

Not particularly. I think there was one scrum inbetween Thomas coming on and Davies going off - in that scrum Thomas was under all sorts of pressure.