Tri Nations: Wallabies - All Blacks @ Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane (27-8-2011, 10:05GMT)

[gingergenius]

OK, so if Radike Samo was cool with it, then its nobody else's business, especially not the Precious Cnuts Brigade, right?

Well, Radike was cool with it, or he wouldn't have posed with them with that big wide smile on his face.

So, the PC's can just FO!!!

You happy with that?

in this instance yes.

but as I said, especially in Australia (which is a country robbed from black folks, where its black folks were hideously oppressed, where besides a lucky few its black folks still aren't a fully integrated part of Australian society) you need to be careful. Like in the USA and UK, two other countries with dubious pasts.

Being careful isn't being precious. It's being mature. That's all.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

this loss is the result Of what the AB do every RWC. They break the team momentum by dropping players! Aus have been playing with the same squad the whole 3N and making only a few changes every game, where the AB make 11 changes and then something like 9... Pls GH stick to 1 team in the RWC, then nobody will stop the AB. This is why the AB lost to France aswell in 2007, no momentum cuz the squad is altered every game...the AB best advantage is their downfall everytime... Their depth!!!

Yeah, Henry admitted as much; saying the plan to rest players backfired. The good news for NZ though is that the capitulation didn't come in a RWC knock out round. It will be interesting to see if they rest players en masse during the pool stages again though TBF SA (and others) have rested players in the same way in previous WC's (almost going down to Fiji because of it in 2007!) so it's not isolated to any 1 team.

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

You mean Tonga

We had no trouble with Fiji to be honest but we almost lost to Tonga in the group stages because of a Springbok B side that was playing (including the amazing fly-half Sandcastle Pretorius)

 

[Rhyer]

in this instance yes.

but as I said, especially in Australia (which is a country robbed from black folks, where its black folks were hideously oppressed, where besides a lucky few its black folks still aren't a fully integrated part of Australian society) you need to be careful. Like in the USA and UK, two other countries with dubious pasts.

Being careful isn't being precious. It's being mature. That's all.

I don't think someone from England is in a position to talk about the problems from Australia and in fact when you say hideously oppressed, who do you think started it? Modern day Australians or the English colonialists? Don't mince your words there poor boy, there's racism like the KKK and then there's painting your face black while wearing an afro to resemble a rather awesome rugby player.

 

[JW.]

And the English Colonialists are how long ago now?.... Comeon if there's still racism in Australia you can hardly blame anyone else for that. For the Samo immitation I thought it was cool, and propably so did samo.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

You mean Tonga



We had no trouble with Fiji to be honest but we almost lost to Tonga in the group stages because of a Springbok B side that was playing (including the amazing fly-half Sandcastle Pretorius)[/QUOTE]

I am corrected, thank you.

 

[Seaton]

You mean Tonga

We had no trouble with Fiji to be honest but we almost lost to Tonga in the group stages because of a Springbok B side that was playing (including the amazing fly-half Sandcastle Pretorius)

Mind me asking, wasn't there a point where the score was 20 all in the second half in the Fiji game?

Maybe I'm thinking of another game.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Mind me asking, wasn't there a point where the score was 20 all in the second half in the Fiji game?

Maybe I'm thinking of another game.

Yeah, i just checked. 20 all at one time after SA lead 20-3 (Fiji had a penalty and 2 quick tries to level it early/midway through the second half) and then SA sealed the deal in the last 20.

I was refering to our struggle in the group stages with our B team where Eze was right in that was against Tonga. Can't take these teams lightly.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I am still stunned Cooper got off without a ban.

I take solace in the fact that d!ckheads like him always get their come-uppence.

Aye, McCaw seemed content to have a bit of pushing and shoving with him, one day Cooper will do it to someone with the temperament of Jamie Cudmore and will break his nose for his troubles

 

[Ostrayian]

OMG, a kick, You are kidding, right!! Well Cooper got a crafty little slipper in first!



It was a ruck, there is NO GATE at a ruck!!!

There is a gate at a tackle, but entering through the gate only gives you the right to play the BALL, not go around onto the opponents side of the tackle and pansy slap the opposing players.

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Yes the ruck was formed and richie wasnt only playing for the ball but from a blatant offside position as well? If the ref is too slow to blow the whistle(as was the case in the video) or even reluctant to blow the whistle as is the case most of the time when richie continually infringes, then I say he's fair game to get belted, cleaned out, stomped, raked blah blah.
Richie infringes, ref swallows whistle, opposing player drops forearm or stamps on him, big bro Thorn comes to rescue.....New Zealanders cry like *****es.

 

[Ostrayian]

history of racism? where is this perception coming from?

Racism is still alive and healthy in this country. Dont know what rock you have been hiding under?

 

[UilamOsa]

Racism is still alive and healthy in this country. Dont know what rock you have been hiding under?

It's the same rock that you and Quade Cooper hide under. It's Denial Rock.

 

[gingergenius]

I don't think someone from England is in a position to talk about the problems from Australia and in fact when you say hideously oppressed, who do you think started it? Modern day Australians or the English colonialists? Don't mince your words there poor boy, there's racism like the KKK and then there's painting your face black while wearing an afro to resemble a rather awesome rugby player.

**** off and read the content and context of my posts before you jump to false conclusions about what I've said.

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

I am corrected, thank you.

Always a pleasure to jug your memory

We didn't have the easiest of games against Fiji but still we beat them comfortably.

 

[nush]

i wonder what the guys on the re-union show in nz thought about the game, i know they weren't impressed when the reds beat the crusaders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wae_VlPCrGc

 

[Ostrayian]

It's the same rock that you and Quade Cooper hide under. It's Denial Rock.

Still having a cry...........the QC knee was stuff all. This is what I call a ripper knee .....ole richie surprise surprise coming in from the side again killing the ball. FARKAH YEAH!! :lol:



this is even better by ur own ali wiliams

 

[smartcooky]

Still having a cry...........the QC knee was stuff all.

Here is a quote from a Queensland referee on rugbyrefs.com

[TEXTAREA]...the reason it should be disciplined is because just yesterday afternoon, a 12 year old in a junior match did the exact same thing. When the referee sent him off, he asked the referee why Quade can do it and he can't...these guys are being idolized and need to behave like professional rugby players...or get sanctioned for it (if they don't)[/TEXTAREA]

... and my response to it, and your comment.

Give this man the "Hit the Nail on the Head" medal

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This is exactly the sort of cheap shot that needs to be stood on and stood on hard. If its not punished severely at the top level, the players lower levels (right down to kids) see it, see that its deemed to be "OK", and do the same things. That is how this sort of stuff becomes endemic in a sport, and it is exactly why Wendyball has such a problem with cheap-shots and referee abuse.

Its not just this Quade Cooper cheap shot that needs dealing with. Its the stuff that Bakkie Botha does. If a player is cited for that kind of thing, and is not punished, players at lower levels, especially kids, do not understand the subtleties of legal technicality.

In this case Cooper got off on a technicality, not because it was deemed that he had done nothing wrong. The Judiciary Officer decided that it was only a Yellow Card offence, and that he should not have been cited in the first place. But the perception to young kids and junior players is that it was OK for Quade Cooper to deliberately stick his knee into an opponent's head. They see their hero doing this and getting away with it, and they think it is cool to emulate what their hero does.

You may or may not realise that Football, in England especially, has a real problem throughout all levels with extreme verbal abuse of referees.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-respect-to-referees-and-match-officials.html

They have this problem because about 10-15 years ago, it began happening at Premiership levels, and the FA did not do anything about it, and did not support their referees when they sent players off. Kids copy their heroes and before you know it, incidences of referee assault and abuse climb slowly to epidemic proportions.

Rugby Union is already seen by the wider public as a game for thugs. We do not need to allow the insidious rise of the cheap shot to make that reputation any worse.

 

[Riekert]

When last did you see Bakkies Botha doing something?

 

[markshaw]

Every single game he plays in hes a dirty C***

 

[Sam91]

Bakkies Botha is a world renown pig everyone knows it, even my south african friends know it. The Cooper thing is old, He kneed McCaw, it was s**t, He's an idiot, if you have heard him talk before you'd realise he's not that smart, let's move on.