Premiership Rugby 2018/19 Round 1

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

@TRF_Olyy just watching the highlights of the Sale game and all the waving from quins boys looks to be to the medics telling them to get onto the pitch to help Curry, Morris even goes to a medic to explain what happened...

But that Care pass was waaaay forward

 

[BPM]

What happened to Curry? I'm on holiday so have only send the results/top level reports.

Which Curry?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

What happened to Curry? I'm on holiday so have only send the results/top level reports.

Which Curry?

Tom,
Chasing a high ball and ran temple first into the jumping Aaron Morris' knee
Knocked him out but he's said he's fine, was stretchered off as a precaution

 

[BPM]

Cheers. Pleased to hear he's OK.

 

[NDC89]

Watching the Exeter v Leicester game and the Tiger's players are simply not fit enough. After the first 20 minutes, their line speed has disappeared completely. The tight-five are just plodding around the place and the backrow don't look much better. Not much that backline can do when half the team aren't at the races, no matter how talented. The real question is whether this is Leicester's fault, or are Exeter going to be that much fitter and faster than a lot of other teams too?

 

[Which Tyler]

Pie, and make it humble. [:

Happy?


On Goneva - no try, in accordance with the laws - ref had blown his whistle, so play was dead - whether the ref was right to or not.
IMO that dummy was a bit too sneaky - making sure that everyone (including the ref) is unsighted, and then getting the ball as close to the ground as it's possible to without actually making contact.
To me that falls into the same category as a dummy throw at a line-out, or a dummy pass from the floor by a SH - you can get away with it if it's an obvious dummy; (hands on the ballk and drop a hip; cock to throw, but count to 2 etc).
Ultimately though, the dummy was enough to fool the ref; who blew his whistle, so it's a 22m drop out. Any "against the spirit of the game" violation would be to continue running after hearing that the whistle had been blown, and any remonstration with the ref for not seeing what you deliberately prevented him from seeing.

 

[Every Time Ref]

Based purely on what I've read, it sounds like the Goneva try shouldn't have been a try.

If a precedent is set that this is acceptable, surely then it becomes acceptable to smash any player who appears to have grounded the ball, just in case. Or does it just become a lottery, depending on the outcome of the TMO review of the grounding after everything has panned out? Or will the defending team have to send a couple of players to shadow the guy who grounded the ball ready to catch him if he makes a break fir it? I can't see any way of allowing this which won't turn the 30 seconds or so between grounding and taking the drop out into a total circus.

Anyway, what did he expect to happen? That everyone would assume he'd touched it down except, miraculously, the referee who would let him play on?

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Goneva accomplished exactly what he was hoping to do: to make the people chasing him think that he grounded the ball.

Idk why he thought it would work.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

What Goneva did was brilliant. Quick thinking and initiative should be encouraged.

The ref made a mistake blowing for the 22, end of. Players then stopped so the try may not have been scored, but play should have continued. Very tough one for the ref but an object lesson to players and refs alike in playing what happens, not what usually happens or what might happen.

If play had continued and Falcons scored, could the ref have checked with the TMO?

Deception is a key part in many sports. There's a line between that and cheating and Goneva stayed on the right side of it.

 

[Nudger]

Yeah that's a try, wtf

Except the ref shout 22 dropout?

 

[Nudger]

Watching the Exeter v Leicester game and the Tiger's players are simply not fit enough. After the first 20 minutes, their line speed has disappeared completely. The tight-five are just plodding around the place and the backrow don't look much better. Not much that backline can do when half the team aren't at the races, no matter how talented. The real question is whether this is Leicester's fault, or are Exeter going to be that much fitter and faster than a lot of other teams too?

 

[Nudger]

You would think over 80 minutes they could win a few good fast ball s and the talent that IS behind the scrum could do something but it didn't happen

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Except the ref shout 22 dropout?

Which he shouldn't have done because it wasn't.
Obviously it wasn't a try because it wasn't awarded, but it should have been. The referee made a mistake and then covered his back with the "spirit of the game" excuse.

 

[Nudger]

Which he shouldn't have done because it wasn't.
Obviously it wasn't a try because it wasn't awarded, but it should have been. The referee made a mistake and then covered his back with the "spirit of the game" excuse.

I know what you but if you fool everyone including the ref?

 

[Nudger]

Matt OConner gone?

 

[Reiser99]

Yep, Tigers management didn't hang about. Problem is I'm not particularly confident in them recruiting the right man for the job. Partly because almost everyone worth their salt will be contracted, but mainly as I don't think the board has a clue what they want or the problems facing Leicester.

 

[Which Tyler]

Which he shouldn't have done because it wasn't.
Obviously it wasn't a try because it wasn't awarded, but it should have been. The referee made a mistake and then covered his back with the "spirit of the game" excuse.

Was the spirit of the game but for the dummy, or the continuing to runafter being called back by the ref?

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Which he shouldn't have done because it wasn't.
Obviously it wasn't a try because it wasn't awarded, but it should have been. The referee made a mistake and then covered his back with the "spirit of the game" excuse.

I don't think it's against the spirit of the game it what did he honestly think was going to happen? That he was going to fool everyone but the ref?

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

O'Connor has quit Leicester???

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

O'Connor has quit Leicester???

Some may say quit.