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Police don't relaunch investigations without material new evidence. We've had the Rayner attendance come to light and who knows what else the Police have now got.
Exclusive: Sir Keir Starmer to be investigated by Durham police over 'beergate'
Durham Constabulary had previously said they did not believe the Labour leader had breached coronavirus ruleswww.telegraph.co.uk
So they are going investigate again and find exactly what they did last time?
What new evidence has actually come to light that disputes Starmer's version of events that were within the rules at the time?
Feels like they've caved to media pressure unlike Johnson where Met basically had to cave after Sue Grey uncovered '**** tons' of evidence.
Given what he's said about Johnson and Sunak needing to resign on the back of their fines it would look rankly hypocritical for him not to fall on his sword if he receives a FPN. The Guardian would also presumably have to start calling him The Convict as they do Johnson.
Let's wait and see what unfolds.
But Rayner's being attendance doesn't make a jot of difference to if rules were broken or not. Nothing that is in public domain makes anything amounting to a material difference to what was originally concluded. They must have a private smoking gun if they really think its worth doing.
I think you'd have to prove with the rules at the time that either Starmer left immediately after the meal (and he could obtain food elsewhere) and the meal was ordered solely for the express privilege of socialising with zero intention to work during or after it.
Having had a pizza evening during an electoral campaign (whilst also watching the debate that evening) I think you'd struggle to prove it was not a working lunch.
It should be noted the reason why Johnson is hot water over his working lunches is they were forbidden at the time. Different dates, different rules,
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Looks like the Russians have lost a 2nd warship. Could be handing over control of the Black sea to NATO as well as the Baltic
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200 up (or rather, down) 
Also looking better for labour - I think they can properly call this a victory for themselves, rather than treading water, but a victory for not-a-tory.
Also a bit of a demolition for "Other" - can anyone remember what UKIP were up to 4 years ago? Other than agitating for BJ to take over from May
Also looking better for labour - I think they can properly call this a victory for themselves, rather than treading water, but a victory for not-a-tory.
Also a bit of a demolition for "Other" - can anyone remember what UKIP were up to 4 years ago? Other than agitating for BJ to take over from May
Should note some of those are tricksy for example Somerset doubled the amount of seats available so it showing Tories have lost 33 seats but reality is they just haven't gained any of the 55 new ones.200 up (or rather, down)
Also looking better for labour - I think they can properly call this a victory for themselves, rather than treading water, but a victory for not-a-tory
Still enjoying the Somerset result though its a complete drubbing and really important nationally LD's getting wiped out in 2015 was part of Dave's majority and it appears to have swung right back to Kennedy's heyday in that area. Yeovil returned in every ward 2 LD councillor's except one where they sent a Tory and a LD. Even though I identify more with Lab these days hometown going Tory was definitely a low point in political results for me.
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I don't have a dog in the fight but those results look horrible to me. SDLP on 7%, UUP on 10%. Okay, Alliance up above 15% (miles behind the front two), but the DUP slump of 5% has entirely shifted to an even more hardline party, the Traditional Unionist Party.
Having seen an incoherent Donaldson the other day I will be stunned if the DUP honour democratic norms and allow SF the keys to the castle, and Westminster will facilitate that hellscape. Combined SF + SDLP + Aontu = 37%. Same as it ever was.
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In the UK I'm glad to see the LDs coming off life support now they realised the strategic move of not having a total numpty as your leader.
I'm not getting too enthusiastic but military maps are showing Ukraine making some possible counterattacks of note for the first time (north and west of Kherson as well as south east of Kharkiv). Hopefully it's those 200 Polish tanks being put to good use. Or it may simply be these are not priority areas for Russia at the moment as they continue to have success in Luhansk oblast (with Donetsk still holding firm for Ukraine).
Rumours Putin will declare war and introduce conscription on Monday. But nothing firm. Even Lukashenko saying the war is dragging. Brazil's left wing former (and hopefully next) President the latest eejit to be sympathetic to Russia invading Ukraine. That's China, India, SA and Brazil in that weird club.
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Swinson and Farron were never really the problem its just taken 7 years for coalition stink to wash off. I think Davey is a complete non entity and a pound shop Starmer.
All that's really happened is areas that voted for LD previously and punished them by brining Tories have realised how horrifically bad an idea that was. Let's hope Labour areas catch on too.
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Agreed with all of that - barring Farron not being a problem
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TBH in GE terms, this doesn't look good for the left if the trends here translate to a GE. For every election since Blair won in 97, left wing parties have amassed more votes than the right and yet in half that time, the right wing has won. This is in no small part due to the left vote being split over multiple parties and the FPTP system. This local election has shown exactly the same, with the largest left parties also seeing the smallest increase, suggesting that next GE the left vote could be even more fragmented than before meaning the Tories could actually see their vote share shrink drastically and yet still walk away with a majority.
Of course if Labour, Lib Dems, Greens and SNP agreed to not run against each other then this could be less of a problem, but of course they won't do that because the stupid sods still want to be the winner who takes all, they want all the others to not compete against them but refuse to not compete themselves.
Also I understand Johnson needs to try to spin this but to say the results here are evidence the public wants the Tories to "get on with the important issues" is so far detached from reality it's laughable they still wheel this out every time something goes wrong for them. Also he's blaming problems with infrastructure on lack of funding by others... ***** please, your party has been in power a decade and you have taken a country that had pretty well maintained infrastructure overall and absolutely decimated it through lack of funding.
Of course if Labour, Lib Dems, Greens and SNP agreed to not run against each other then this could be less of a problem, but of course they won't do that because the stupid sods still want to be the winner who takes all, they want all the others to not compete against them but refuse to not compete themselves.
Also I understand Johnson needs to try to spin this but to say the results here are evidence the public wants the Tories to "get on with the important issues" is so far detached from reality it's laughable they still wheel this out every time something goes wrong for them. Also he's blaming problems with infrastructure on lack of funding by others... ***** please, your party has been in power a decade and you have taken a country that had pretty well maintained infrastructure overall and absolutely decimated it through lack of funding.
Farron was more if issue towards the end when he couldn't answer a ******* question a Liberal MP should be able to answer without hesitation. Then it became a problem when the party quite rightly turned on him for it. He actually was and still is quite a good politician, I just don't think he quite fits being the face of the party due to his stance on certain things.
With Swinson the strategy wonks just lost the plot.
Ex-officer jailed after rough arrest of woman with dementia
Austin Hopp has been sentenced to five years for assault after arrest of a woman with dementia.
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Glad to see some measure of justice done over this incident, although clearly some more officers could have been charged.
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Meanwhile at the Express:
Also nothing on the Mail front page about the election at all... I really wonder if their readers can see how painfully partisan they are.
Also nothing on the Mail front page about the election at all... I really wonder if their readers can see how painfully partisan they are.
Disaster just in England alone, 341 losses.
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My grandparents had their first nationalist minister of their lives last time out. Now Belfast North is SF dominated.
Modernisation with a helping hand of DUO incompetence is naturally fixing the north. Love to see it.
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