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A Political Thread pt. 2

Which Tyler said:
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What Bill Clinton did (cheating on his wife) was bad, but overall he did a good job in office and history has backed that up. But our other impeached/resigned Presidents were crap.
 
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But doesn't that make you sad?

Yes they are stupid.
BUT generally it's to do with the environment they get brought up in.
These are the areas that have the highest rates of Poverty in the UK, the poorest schools, the poorest infrastructure, the same areas that lost their party to the middle class pretty much and in the void they got given the poison apple.
 
One the main issues confronting those not of the completely insane is a way of being able to communicate it and also fight nationalist rhetoric. Don't think anyone has quite worked it out yet even Biden basically said "look at the guy I'm up against there no way I can be that bad".

It's not ideas either we had Corbyn in this country and whilst many didn't have a policy issue he still couldn't fight the nationalist rhetoric at all.

It's something I haven't heard a single commentator really have an answer for.
 
ncurd said:
One the main issues confronting those not of the completely insane is a way of being able to communicate it and also fight nationalist rhetoric. Don't think anyone has quite worked it out yet even Biden basically said "look at the guy I'm up against there no way I can be that bad".

It's not ideas either we had Corbyn in this country and whilst many didn't have a policy issue he still couldn't fight the nationalist rhetoric at all.

It's something I haven't heard a single commentator really have an answer for.
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Has the UK officially broken ties with the EU yet? Wasn't that supposed to happen sometime this fall?
 
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RugbyUSA said:
Has the UK officially broken ties with the EU yet? Wasn't that supposed to happen sometime this fall?
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We left back in January we are now in a transitional phase where we obey all the rules and get the benefits whilst we hammer out post trade relations. That officially ends in like December/January. I think we are technically past some deadlines but I'm sure if they can hammer something out those won't matter.

You guy did us a solid this week, there already talk about fixing our internal markets bill in the Lord's so it no longer breaks the Good Friday Agreement. Johnson is massively backpedlling on environmental issues. General rumours abound that will make a deal with sensible concessions to the EU now we won't be able to sell our country to the USA. Johnson to drum up some good news threw his MPs under the bus to feed kids at Christmas.

We're still ****** but we are less ****** than we were a week ago.
 
A podcasts I've listened too over the weekend that shows the "progressive" left thoughts on things especially this election is Sam Seder's Majority Report.

IDK I find how the Dems will deal with this problem of mods v Progressives fascinating.
 
Is anyone else kind of jealous of the American?
You have these young aggressive progressive Politian's coming up who understand the digital age and the modern age. Who does Labour have? Hell Corbyn was billed as our Sanders which sums it all up.
 
ncurd said:
We left back in January we are now in a transitional phase where we obey all the rules and get the benefits whilst we hammer out post trade relations. That officially ends in like December/January. I think we are technically past some deadlines but I'm sure if they can hammer something out those won't matter.

You guy did us a solid this week, there already talk about fixing our internal markets bill in the Lord's so it no longer breaks the Good Friday Agreement. Johnson is massively backpedlling on environmental issues. General rumours abound that will make a deal with sensible concessions to the EU now we won't be able to sell our country to the USA. Johnson to drum up some good news threw his MPs under the bus to feed kids at Christmas.

We're still ****** but we are less ****** than we were a week ago.
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Thank you. I thought our politics was confusing until I watched your House Of Commons broadcast. With all the yelling that goes on how do you get things done? o_O

calm down united kingdom GIF
 
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Tigs Man said:
Is anyone else kind of jealous of the American?
You have these young aggressive progressive Politian's coming up who understand the digital age and the modern age. Who does Labour have? Hell Corbyn was billed as our Sanders which sums it all up.
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Aye, we don't have anyone like "The Squad" - and if we do they're nowhere near any sort of power
 
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It's not the backwards policies of the government or the crummy council estates or the fact they made no effort at school and never amounted to anything that is the reason for them being poor. Nah it's Johnny fakkin foreigner coming over here and taking the job Wayne the brick layer was rightfully entitled to, taking HIS money and also scrounging on HIS benefits.
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Wow. And you wonder why these diplorabale types don't vote the same way you do you elitist, self-righteous, arrogant fool.
 
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Wow. And you wonder why these diplorabale types don't vote the same way you do you elitist, self-righteous, arrogant fool.
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No, I don't wonder why because I've seen all that myself. Show me the "deplorable" who actually has a reasoning beyond foreigners or a supposed sense of taking back control and I'll show you a bridge for sale. Some have alternative motives (some very wealthy seek to gain from Brexit) and a tiny amount have more thought out reasoning but the vast majority boils down to nationalism.
 
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ragerancher said:
It's not the backwards policies of the government or the crummy council estates or the fact they made no effort at school and never amounted to anything that is the reason for them being poor. Nah it's Johnny fakkin foreigner coming over here and taking the job Wayne the brick layer was rightfully entitled to, taking HIS money and also scrounging on HIS benefits.
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Labour totally ****** up with Corbyn, it was the memberships fault. They played a guy with integrity in a game where being despicable and deceitful are essential. Not to worry their back on course now. Those left-leaning Liberals thought they would be allowed to actually change things,
 
Also lots and lots of bad decisions and refusal.to even engage on Brexit. People didnt like Corbyn for a whole host of reasons. Some of them were made up some were not.
 
So we've got Biden already not happy with the UK due to us wanting to break the GFA,
You've got Harris saying she actively dislikes BoJo due to his racist comments about Obama,
and now we've got a member of the HoL spewing this shite
www.independent.co.uk

British peer sparks outrage after calling Kamala Harris ‘the Indian’

Lord John Kilclooney has history of insulting people of Asian heritage
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk


We're really getting off to a good start here
 

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