World Rankings after Rd 3

[An Tarbh]

Wales win over Scotland has seen them move up 1 spot in the rankings list to 4th spot.

Ireland's win over France has seen the 2 sides swap positions.

England remain in 6th following their lacklustre win against Italy.

Scotland are also unchanged in 9th spot while Italy also remain in 11th spot.

1(1) NEW ZEALAND 92.68
2(2) SOUTH AFRICA 89.45
3(3) AUSTRALIA 85.86
4(5) WALES 81.90
5(4) ARGENTINA 81.56
6(6) ENGLAND 80.98
7(8) IRELAND 79.25
8(7) FRANCE 78.68
9(9) SCOTLAND 75.89
10(10) FIJI 75.24
11(11) ITALY 74.52
12(12) SAMOA 72.57
13(13) TONGA 70.05
14(14) GEORGIA 69.48
15(15) CANADA 69.12
16(16) JAPAN 68.05
17(17) ROMANIA 67.90
18(18) RUSSIA 65.32
19(19) USA 63.55
20(20) URUGUAY 62.78
21(21) SPAIN 60.48
22(22) KOREA 59.02
23(23) PORTUGAL 57.88
24(24) CHILE 56.84
25(25) NAMIBIA 56.82
26(26) GERMANY 56.69
27(27) BELGIUM 55.12
28(28) BRAZIL 55.00
29(29) TUNISIA 53.37
30(30) HONG KONG 53.16

 

[elgringoborracho]

Crap

 

[durbutter]

Hong Kong are definatily better than Tunisia!

 

[gingergenius]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Feb 9 2009, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Wales win over Scotland has seen them move up 1 spot in the rankings list to 4th spot.

Ireland's win over France has seen the 2 sides swap positions.

England remain in 6th following their lacklustre win against Italy.

Scotland are also unchanged in 9th spot while Italy also remain in 11th spot.

1(1) NEW ZEALAND 92.68
2(2) SOUTH AFRICA 89.45
3(3) AUSTRALIA 85.86
4(5) WALES 81.90
5(4) ARGENTINA 81.56
6(6) ENGLAND 80.98
7(8) IRELAND 79.25
8(7) FRANCE 78.68
9(9) SCOTLAND 75.89
10(10) FIJI 75.24
11(11) ITALY 74.52
12(12) SAMOA 72.57
13(13) TONGA 70.05
14(14) GEORGIA 69.48
15(15) CANADA 69.12
16(16) JAPAN 68.05
17(17) ROMANIA 67.90
18(18) RUSSIA 65.32
19(19) USA 63.55
20(20) URUGUAY 62.78
21(21) SPAIN 60.48
22(22) KOREA 59.02
23(23) PORTUGAL 57.88
24(24) CHILE 56.84
25(25) NAMIBIA 56.82
26(26) GERMANY 56.69
27(27) BELGIUM 55.12
28(28) BRAZIL 55.00
29(29) TUNISIA 53.37
30(30) HONG KONG 53.16[/b]

well if ireland and france beat us and can move ahead of argentina then those ranking will be just about right.

 

[dullonien]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Feb 9 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

well if ireland and france beat us and can move ahead of argentina then those ranking will be just about right.[/b]

Think Wales and Aus are about equal, so still a bit off imo, we did beat them in the Autumn (though we were home, so that doesn't automatically mean were better than them).

If we beat Engalnd by the kinda scores people are suggesting, will we gain much? The systems slightly too complicated for me to bother trying to work out myslef, maybe someone knows them better? Any chances of anyone catching the top 3 in these 6 nations?

 

[An Tarbh]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dullonien @ Feb 9 2009, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Feb 9 2009, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

well if ireland and france beat us and can move ahead of argentina then those ranking will be just about right.[/b]

Think Wales and Aus are about equal, so still a bit off imo, we did beat them in the Autumn (though we were home, so that doesn't automatically mean were better than them).

If we beat Engalnd by the kinda scores people are suggesting, will we gain much? The systems slightly too complicated for me to bother trying to work out myslef, maybe someone knows them better? Any chances of anyone catching the top 3 in these 6 nations?
[/b][/quote]

Wales would need their biggest win to come against England to have any chance of moving up, since they're the side closest in the rankings, but any time I try and work things out with this system I end up with a headache.

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

I don't read too much into the rankings but must say that Russia having firmly cracked the top 20 is noticeable. In the 2007-2008 European Nations Cup they finished 2nd with 8 wins from 10 games (losing to Georgia twice). In the current campaign they top the group after 2 rounds and face Romania next in Bucharest. Russia have beaten Romania in 2 of their last 3 encounters including a victory in Bucharest. The game they dropped was a one point defeat at the end of last season in the IRB Nations Cup also in Bucharest. Russia look well placed for at least a top 3 finish and likely qualification for the 2011 World Cup (top 2 would get them automatic qualification for New Zealand while 3rd would put them in a playoff for the 20th spot).

 

[An Tarbh]

well the double points for the world cup are still giving the rankings a skewed look, France below England is laughable

 

[stevemagoo]

Nice link...

http://www.lassen.co.nz/pagmisc.php

Handy for game swings.

 

[bc2704]

I can't believe England are still ranked above Ireland!

 

[An Tarbh]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bc2704 @ Feb 11 2009, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I can't believe England are still ranked above Ireland![/b]

we should take care of that if we win at Croker.

 

[Incredible Schalk]

Its not that amazing, England humped Ireland in the 6 nations last year and finished above them. Ireland only really started playing again last saturday.

 

[An Tarbh]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Incredible Schalk @ Feb 11 2009, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Its not that amazing, England humped Ireland in the 6 nations last year and finished above them. Ireland only really started playing again last saturday.[/b]

well our form since the 6N throughout the Summer and the Autumn has still been streets ahead of England but because they picked up double points for the world cup that's where we're seeing the discrepancy.

 

[shazbooger]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Feb 11 2009, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

because they picked up double points for the world cup that's where we're seeing the discrepancy.[/b]

Thats when it counts though. I'd rather a WC semi-final and a few years of misery over ....... well lots of years of misery.

 

[An Tarbh]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Feb 13 2009, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Feb 11 2009, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

because they picked up double points for the world cup that's where we're seeing the discrepancy.[/b]

Thats when it counts though. I'd rather a WC semi-final and a few years of misery over ....... well lots of years of misery.
[/b][/quote]

I'd rather no years of misery to be honest. Getting back to the system considering these teams play each other so often there's no point in having double ranking points, cause there's no ranking points up for grabs even if you beat a minnow by 90 points. So it's an advantage for a team like Argentina where they had 2 teams ranked above them, therefore more ranking points up for grabs even just in real terms and then you go and double that, whereas England, South Africa, Wales and Australia wouldn't have had the same opportunity to pick up ranking points in their pool games.

 

[alexrugby]

Very nice to be 14th, as the giant teams precede you

I think good job from our, Georgian boys to be 14th in world rankings

 

[monkeypigeon]

Have Georgia played any of the 4 teams ahead of them in recent history?

 

[An Tarbh]

with Fiji touring next November there might be a window to organise a test with them unless it's already on the cards.

 

[alexrugby]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Monkeypigeon @ Feb 14 2009, 01:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Have Georgia played any of the 4 teams ahead of them in recent history?[/b]

Argentina, RSA, Italy A, Scotland A, Ireland and too many others, Samoa included

 

[An Tarbh]

Updated after Round 2 with Ireland over taking England thanks to the +15 win in Rome.

1(1) NEW ZEALAND 92.68
2(2) SOUTH AFRICA 89.45
3(3) AUSTRALIA 85.86
4(4) WALES 82.51
5(5) ARGENTINA 81.56
6(7) IRELAND 80.49
7(6) ENGLAND 80.37
8(8) FRANCE 79.10
9(9) SCOTLAND 75.47
10(10) FIJI 75.24
11(11) ITALY 73.28
12(12) SAMOA 72.57
13(13) TONGA 70.05
14(15) CANADA 69.12
15(14) GEORGIA 68.48
16(17) ROMANIA 68.17
17(16) JAPAN 68.05
18(18) RUSSIA 65.32
19(19) USA 63.55
20(20) URUGUAY 62.78
21(21) SPAIN 60.48
22(22) KOREA 59.02
23(23) PORTUGAL 58.88
24(24) CHILE 56.84
25(25) NAMIBIA 56.82
26(26) GERMANY 56.42
27(27) BELGIUM 55.12
28(28) BRAZIL 55.00
29(29) TUNISIA 53.37
30(30) HONG KONG 53.16