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Watched Terminator 4 didn't really think much of it and I don't think Batman or whatever his name is was right for the part it should of been someone else just not him. Same old stuff thou robots come along humans fight against them and guess who wins? yep the goodies just like every other movie out there when the hell are the baddies gonna win for once.[/b]
When the hell are the bad guys going to win? Hmmm, let's see. (DON'T READ THIS LIST IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THEM).
The Usual Suspects
Rosemary's Baby
The Empire Strikes Back
Fallen
Inside Man
No Country For Old Men
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
Memento
Hannibal
Arlington Road
Se7en
Primal Fear
Saw
Match Point
Swordfish
The Talented Mr Ripley
Brazil
Fight Club
A Clockwork Orange
Carltio's Way
American History X
Chinatown
The Thing
Identity
Unfaithful
The Wicker Man
The Exorcist
Cloverfield
28 Days Later
28 Weeks Later
The Omen
Invasion Of The Bodysnatchers
Jeepers Creepers
Mr Frost
Cool Hand Luke
The Great Escape
Terminator 3
Wolf Creek
Black Hawk Down
The Mist
Lord Of The Rings: Fellowship Of The Ring
Taxi Driver
Natural Born Killers
And maybe even Jurassic Park!
So, let's not say the good guys always win. There are enough films out there where they lose (or at best draw).
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Good guy = the guy the audience is rooting for. I bet that fits every film you listed.
Best example - not listed - is William Munny out of Missourri, killer of women and children - the assassin for hire in
Unforgiven. Best line ever in a film: "Deserve's got nothing to do with it."
Does anyone think the Russians are the good guy (except the Russians)?
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You bet that every film I listed features the guy winning that the audience wants? Thats typically absolute of you Shtove. Theres no way thats the case. You could maybe pick a good 10 out of that list that are ambigious at best.
There's no way the majority of the audience was rooting for the real life psychopath from Wolf Creek. If it were a real life situation, would you be wanting Kevin Spacey's sick ******* to win his demented game in Seven? Is Detective Mills calling it a win at the end? Were most people really wanting Edward Woodwards good guy, who'd just tried to save a little girl to burn to death in The Wicker Man?
Just a few examples. All I can say is if anyone was rooting for ALL of the outcomes of these films, in some instances they'd have to be pretty sick.
Mind you, your point might be that you'd of predicted the ending to all of the films on your first run through, which if the case might just fit a superiority complex like a glove.