The Metal Thread

[ratsapprentice]

By "new" do you mean this year, or the last two or three?

 

[Big Ewis]

By "new" do you mean this year, or the last two or three?

oh thank God, I was thinking of doing a hugely annoying 'RAAAATS !!!' times a thousand...well first of all, as a metal veteran do you agree nothing new (2009ish and forth) has really been compelling in the metal world, if not maybe a rare rare few exceptions you had to listen to 50 records to find the one good one ?
And second, yeah, like 2009-2010 til now is new for me. Anything gud ? I'm still trying...

btw, one EP that was really good was Aegaeon's Exponential Transcendence, but they turned into semi-feces later so I stopped them altogether. Deathcore on the DM side of deathcore and no I am NAAAAAHT a DC guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOzFMd5CAPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUuE5EtkR0s

 

[j'nuh]

Opeth make a better prog rock band than a prog metal band and Damnation is their best album.

Come at me.

Also, Slayer was the best of the "big 4".

 

[ratsapprentice]

2008 was definitely the last year that had me saying "this has been a really awesome year" - such is life... I'm sure we are only a year or two away from a bountiful one.
Do you want BM and Grind reccomendations too?

One of my very favorites was the EP "Fidelium" by English band Sarpanitum, check it out here: http://sarpanitum.bandcamp.com/
I have a feeling you might enjoy that too, Peat.

Wormed - Exodromos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6WSIu7cSYQ

Defeated Sanity - Passages Into Deformity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTX6oWcO2Go
Defeated Sanity - Chapters Of Repugnance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S_aAKTLEi0
...These guys are the best Brutal DM band going at the moment - ****ing insane band.

Desecravity - Implicit Obedience: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn_Chsf5xcA
This record was mixed by Rutan - the rest of the album is a bit forgettable tbh... I just like that song.

Chaos Inception - The Abrogation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L236hV-mKjk

Exhumed - All Guts No Glory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k2S57Xey_o
Really fun Carcass style DM.

Dim Mak - The Emergence of Reptilian Altars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ZKf1DBJhE
Shaune Kelley (the guitarist) was in Ripping Corpse, with Rutan - they definitely influenced each other.

Aeon - Path Of Fire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF3-1j2i9s8
...also mixed by Rutan.

Vader - Necropolis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkhCQEpkSn8
I'm not really a big Vader fan, but this was ok.

Ulcerate - Everything Is Fire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnBBRx4YGVo
This is a masterpiece.

Teitanblood - Seven Chalices: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzYwdFUQOW0
Filthy.

Slugathor - Echoes From Beneath: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj-FRU230J8
Great Finnish-style DM.

Portal - Swarth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BUG6Vff5N8
This is a bit marmite. Bat**** insane.

Nirvana 2002 - Recordings ('89-'91): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unq9aPVu00c

Lost Soul - Immerse In Infinity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y6ni_JXfok

Gorod - Process Of A New Decline: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdIPOVBTyqk
French tech-death.

Fleshgod Apocalypse - Oracles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR_uzVzQ694
Don't bother checking out their last couple of records - they're ****ing awful.

Dying Fetus - Descend Into Depravity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR_uzVzQ694

Despised Icon - Day Of Mourning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSp-5oEBT_Q
They're French-Canadian wiggers, and the music is Deathcore... but it's actually pretty music tbh. The Production is insane too.

The Chasm - Farseeing The Paranormal Abysm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJf3PEFqh3k
Incredible.

Azarath - Praise The Beast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg-fwfXfhA8
Inferno (from Behemoth) on drums.

Anaal Nathrakh - In The Constellation Of The Black Widow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA8yqZFQP5c
Burtal.

Another long list - sorry.
It's in roughly reverse-chronological order from top to bottom btw.

 

[Big Ewis]

oooookay, I see we've got stuff to work on. Will start tomorrow. Thanks for putting this up, remarks to follow.
K, in advance, could you tell me why you think Ulcerate is a masterpiece ? In short, basic reason.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Because I don't understand how humans can write music like that.

 

[Superalexmarket]

I'm sure you gonna love this, Yoe..ehh I mean Big Ewis. Bon appetit!

 

[Feicarsinn]

Metal is out. Look at all of these sexy semiconductors

 

[Peat]

Opeth make a better prog rock band than a prog metal band and Damnation is their best album.

Come at me.

Not particularly controversial to me at least, and I didn't even listen to Damnation... I just always thought there was a lot of overhype about Opeth as a metal band. Kept taking too long to get to the point for my liking.

p.s.

Song for Ewis

 

[Big Ewis]

nah Opeth are clearly an all-time great, but their best is Deliverance, by far. Damnation was a fine effort with a few catchy melodies and good clean parts, but doesn't have the twists and turns and complex song structures and quality riffs and sections and variety and just oveall musical richness Deliv. had. Find me one song on Damnation that's as good as the song Deliverance. Actually, make that *that's half as good. Find me one outro that equals A Fair Judgment's. This can just go on and on and on...I really can't see how there's a serious debate here.

That Gorod song is as lots of tech death metal, but worse than most: too straight-forward song writing. You can tell the guys just went for melodies their ears liked and never looked back and just put a bunch of them together and made the song. It's not BAD, there's a catchy element to it, but it's not the most intelligent composition you'll find in the genre:

 

[ratsapprentice]

Intellegent is exactly the opposite of how I'd describe Viraemia.

 

[Big Ewis]

rats:

Sarpanitum - pretty good but not good enough for me to sit down and explore a full album. Pretty good sense of melody, some interesting riff structures and good variety in musical texture. But really pretty good, listened to the first two. There's a real musical project, a concrete artistic direction.

Wormed - boy it's been a while for me. A bit of silliness, but some really goo moments surprisingly. Love the sci-fi setting though, cool clip and the ending credits sequence is pretty sweet. Could be more original though, purely tab-wise.

Defeated Sanity - absolutely awful for me. No originality whatsoever. They should be called Defeated Song-writing (*tah doom tss*)

Desecravity - lol a DM band from Tokyo. Song writing too telescoped, predictable. Riffs not good enough to be repeated as many times. Some quality but overall nahhhh. Lowest quality composition so far down this list.

Chaos Inception - nahh...heard that same song many times before, so to speak. Tremolo picked riff pretty good melodic pattern though.

Exhumed - yeah who doesn't know them. Never a huge fan, but they're pretty good. I saw this new album was coming out but never tried it. As you said, fun stuff but won't be spending much time on them.

Dim Mak - wow this sounds soo "Morbid Angel - Domination". But like a much, much cheaper version solo's absolutely awful.

Aeon - naahhh, way too mediocre.

Vader - good for you you're not a big fan, they're not really very good and are very overrated. Voice is just annoying as fk, he sounds like he was eating a chicken sandwich and didn't completely swallow his mouthful and immediately grabbed the mic and recorded the whole album. Like, on every record. Just, a huge chicken sandwich fan. Thrashy good time short tune, nothin' big here. 2min, you kiddin' me ?

Lars Ulcerate: So this song sounds like an atonal assault of the fretboard, extremely varied technically and in pitch, consistently alternating very high and down-tuned strings. Song writing is good, focused, they know what they're doing and they're no copycat. Even if I were to say I'm not as big a fan as you, this is very high quality stuff. I'll definitely return to this and give them a fairer try, thanks to your insisting.
So do you feel this one is their best record, their peak ? Earlier stuff not as accomplished and later stuff not as good ?

Teitanblood: filthy indeed. I like the groove. It's almost stoner black metal. Somehow reminiscent of old Entombed. Too bad, some waste though, could've made this better.

Slugathor: totally biased against the Finns, don't like a single band from there, well maybe a funeral band somewhere...and had to cope with C.O.Bodom as a teen as my entire surroundings loved them. Mmm they sound like just another Finnish DM band honestly although there's a semblance of quality there, in truth, very average.

Portal: experimental type I see..I can picture them, Aussie middle-classed kids in their garage, being elitist intellectuals and snobbing everything that isn't artistic at heart and calling their own stuff real raw artistic vision. Not ferrr meeeee....

Nirvana: I got a little scared there for a while. I see, typical Swedish DM style, thrashy Lombardo beat on drums, ultra high trebble+bass on guitar setup with thick suspended power chords. It is what it is.

Lost Soul: oh yeah, I remember when they were called 'Hades'. K, reaaaaly not my thing, so I'd rather abstrain myself, no need to spoil it for others.


Gotta run, will continue soon gimme a minute.

Intellegent is exactly the opposite of how I'd describe Viraemia.

well that song isn't anything else but brilliant. That chorus is crazy clever and unique.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Wow... I genuinely don't know what to say.
Defeated Sanity aren't original in any way, yet Viraemia are clever and unique.

It's safe to say we have radically different ears.

 

[Muse_Cubed]

Haven't posted on these forums in years, but I've never met other rugby-playing metal fans. This is like unicorn corner.

I guess I'm more into the more experimental side of metal than a lot of the stuff in this thread, the more gloomy and emotionally draining the better, e.g. Neurosis, Amenra, Altar of Plagues. I wouldn't say I'm particularly attached to any one genre.

P.S. I also work with semiconductors, probs explains it.

Currently listening to:

 

[Big Ewis]

Wow... I genuinely don't know what to say.
Defeated Sanity aren't original in any way, yet Viraemia are clever and unique.

It's safe to say we have radically different ears.

yes, nothing is clearer !! I can't believe you feel Defeated Sauna-tea sound original in a way that you can't believe I think Viraemia are clearly more clever at very least in that one song I posted which contains only very good riffs and parts including one of the sickest death metal choruses I've heard and I really will make it a point not to punctuate this sentence at all hope the rest of my comments make sense to you and this serves a purpose for you because it does for me.

Haven't posted on these forums in years, but I've never met other rugby-playing metal fans. This is like unicorn corner.

I guess I'm more into the more experimental side of metal than a lot of the stuff in this thread, the more gloomy and emotionally draining the better, e.g. Neurosis, Amenra, Altar of Plagues. I wouldn't say I'm particularly attached to any one genre.

P.S. I also work with semiconductors, probs explains it.

ah ah ah AH !! I don't PLAY Rugby, I just watch and comment it like a small bish on this forum mostly as on other parts if the internet and occasionally in real life.
Pleased to meet you regardless, even if you're a dirty, thick Rugby-player...ewwww.
I quite like what you've posted. Nowadays ppl would call that "post-metal", but it reminds me of a fantastic wave of earlier bands and an earlier movement they called atmospheric hardcore metal back during the 90's. The big band being Neurosis, and this masterpiece. Enjoy:




Intro is brilliant, but the part you're susceptible of enjoying is later in the song, and, well, the rest of their discography.

 

[Muse_Cubed]

ah ah ah AH !! I don't PLAY Rugby, I just watch and comment it like a small bish on this forum mostly as on other parts if the internet and occasionally in real life.
Pleased to meet you regardless, even if you're a dirty, thick Rugby-player...ewwww.
I quite like what you've posted. Nowadays ppl would call that "post-metal", but it reminds me of a fantastic wave of earlier bands and an earlier movement they called atmospheric hardcore metal back during the 90's. The big band being Neurosis, and this masterpiece. Enjoy


Intro is brilliant, but the part you're susceptible of enjoying is later in the song, and, well, the rest of their discography.

My mistake, pleased to meet you anyway and apologies for insinuating that you're a mucky person. Actually, I lied in my original post, I remember one of the Polish guys on our team listening to some Viking metal before a game, haha.

I really dislike the term post-metal, I think it's pretty lazy. But it seems to have stuck for better of for worse. I'm a massive Neurosis fan - I've managed to see them 3 times in the last couple of years. All of their albums are quality, I tend to go through phases (I'm going through Souls at Zero atm in fact).

Other favourite have to be Amenra:



Similar mould, but have really made their style their own (unlike a lot of the bands in the genre).

 

[Big Ewis]

^ pfff, a Rugby player and a liar too and everything, the fk do I bother ?!! Yeah I don't like the expression "post" anything, rock metal wtvr. Because, well, it's retarded. There's nothing 'post' about those styles, and they're not even that different at all from past styles, let alone radically and fundamentally different, like they're some kind of musical revolution, yeah in fact SUCK MY DICKKKKK post-assholes !!!! Well sorry a bit excessive of course there but about Amenra: never heard this stuff before, pretty good. Nice atmosphere and choice of notes in the buildup. Pretty cool chords later in the resolve, nice thick tone on those guitars. Not bad.

So you like Neurosis too, good. You're a fine addition to this thread after all, despite your being a fat dude who can't pick any other sport but Rugby and a stinking liar, and apologies if I insulted you earlier in the post.

 

[Big Ewis]

this is excellent indeed:



Totally underestimated them some years ago, I guess I was too dismissive.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Tab: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13342996/Consumed By Repugnance.gpx

this is excellent indeed

Totally underestimated them some minutes ago, I guess I was too dismissive.

Video showing how awesome the guy behind DS is (he writes all the music - he's a classical guitar teacher): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sRTB-zvIVA

 

[Big Ewis]

yeah, Defeated Sanity. I get it, ultra-brutal ultra-heavy, but there are only so many palm-muted pwr chd mosh parts you can make until it all sounds the same, even if you're putting the effort. There are some cool sounding riff passages, quick movement on the fretboard, it's cool but that first song is more bland than this. And I'm reaaally not a fan of the grindish vocals. It works for me with Dying Fetus because Gallagher has his own voice.
Like, in this vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTX6oWcO2Go

At 0:53, that's just a bad musical idea. The arpeggio itself is alright, but the way they develop it, and the way they end it is just aaaawful, how could they keep it that way.. The riff that follows, that 2-2 rhythm...then here we go again, mosh part....dissonant chord....hyperblast type beat now. Just not good stuff, for me.

Some good ideas on the latest one (with the tab). Well tabbed, is that you ? But a looot of wasted time in those songs, like, they'll just make a chromatic progression variation of the diminished arpeggio scale and throw that in along with a few pwr chrds and that's a riff.
It's pretty cool, but I wouldn't spend time listening to it. Thanks for posting all the stuff.

Lool that drummer is SOOOOO German. "Mmmm ??" But dayyummm he's just blasting the FKKKKK out of that drumkit at the end though.



K I'll continue down your list:

- Gorod: I remember lots of ppl talking about 'Gorgasm' around 2006 when I was with the Montreal scene deathmetalheads. They're fine but I never delved too deep into them although they found my path many times, never broke through in my mind or managed to convince me. Lots of good, and like I said before on this thread, extremely straight-forward song-writing, you can tell they just go by gut feeling. Surely lots to discover there, but not for me at this point in time...

- Fleshgod: yeah...not a big fan before, not a big fan now. Same story each time huh...nothing that sticks out, it's just a linear listen for me right now. I've listened to millions of metal songs, and this is just another one. And they do nothing to avoid the "ooh, metal, heavy !!!" thing, in fact their ridiculous bandname testifies about the kind of band they are.

- Dying Fetus: my gateway band into tech-death way back when I was a teen. Unfortunately you posted the Fleshgod link there, but let me tell you I love Destroy the Opposition, Stop at Nothing was good too and War of Attrition had some groovy tunes, the opener is a killer. I remember listening to stuff past that, and not liking it as much...

- Despised Icon: ehhhh....

- The Chasm: "incredible" ?? you've got to be kidding. I think it's pretty awful.

- Azarath: well I fkng hate Behemoth lol. I dunno, you think this is really good ?...hate to be a negative nancy, but this is kind of crappy as hell.

- Anaal Nathrakh: yeah I listened to them before a few times, much prefered the "Axis of perdition" sort of in the same vein, still from England. Anaal can be a fkng mess, of course that's what they're looking for...this song: good management in the song, nice chorus...


Okay, from 2006, but killer track: