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The irony of hoards of English people rallying to the defence of an Englishman stamping on someone's head saying how biased the Welsh are is quite outstanding.
He looks like he lifts his foot as soon as he realises and falls as a result as he doesn't have the other foot stable.Christ, watching that again it's even worse. If you pause it on 8 seconds you can see he's regained his balance perfectly. He's not unbalanced in anyway. Then you notice his right leg come across and he doesn't place his foot he stamps it down in a downward motion. Off balance my arse.
This is quite simple really. Do you think he knew where his head was?Literally everyone has dealt with the points as well - the Welshness was a side note as it seems to be mainly from Wales that the image of Brown as a "dirty player" stems
Don't think so, but he should have - see my above postThis is quite simple really. Do you think he knew where his head was?
Yeah, then there's no point carrying on this conversation. I find it unbelievable that you can genuinely think he had no idea where his head was even though he looked at him just prior to doing it. Tbh, you wouldn't even have to look at him to know where his head was. But fine, that's what you see fair enough.Don't think so, but he should have - see my above post
He saw him, but didn't mean to step on him
I love how you've ignored all the evidence provided and just go back to your opinion and the bias nonsense. You literally have no idea how to debate.Yeah, then there's no point carrying on this conversation. I find it unbelievable that you can genuinely think he had no idea where his head was even though he looked at him just prior to doing it. Tbh, you wouldn't even have to look at him to know where his head was. But fine, that's what you see fair enough.
This is genuinely hilarious. You literally know nothing about me (I can assure you you're wrong on literally everything) but yet resort to personal attacks because your arguments are ****.I love how you've ignored all the evidence provided and just go back to your opinion and the bias nonsense. You literally have no idea how to debate.
Posting the video, we've all seen it and it clearly shows it as an accident. You can tell, guessing you've never played rugby or ever left Wales at a guess.
And I'd say you're just another Welsh fan on the Brown-hate bandwagon. I do think it's possible someone can look at that and think it's deliberate but you aren't doing that, you are trying to claim he has previous and imply he is a dirty player to justify believing it was deliberate, which is a flat out lie. You have a bias based on the collective hatred of Brown among the Welsh and now are trying to justify it after the fact, but can't say it's based on the fact he is passionate and likes a little ****le as the Welsh team are one of the worst in the world for dishing that out.Nice strawman.
Look, if you honestly think that was an accident then fine, I'd say you're mad as it's clear as day he could've easily avoided doing what he did which leads me to believe it was therefore intentional. No one is ever going to know 100% what was going through his head other than Brown.
I'd say the people who are being led by their conformation bias would be you guys not me. I've got no dog in this fight even though you want to strawman me into this idea you have of what you think I think of Brown based on nothing other than I'm Welsh.
So you don't think it's possible that someone can look at that and think, hang on, that's deliberate or is that impossible. I mean, you accept it doesn't look good, right? No it must be because I'm Welsh and poor Mike Brown just totally accidentally shoed some bloke in the face. We'll see what the panel think I guess.
Am I the only one? I mean, the only one on here, sure, but the only one? I'm sure you don't think that.And I'd say you're just another Welsh fan on the Brown-hate bandwagon. I do think it's possible someone can look at that and think it's deliberate but you aren't doing that, you are trying to claim he has previous and imply he is a dirty player to justify believing it was deliberate, which is a flat out lie. You have a bias based on the collective hatred of Brown among the Welsh and now are trying to justify it after the fact, but can't say it's based on the fact he is passionate and likes a little ****le as the Welsh team are one of the worst in the world for dishing that out.
Also you point out you think it's funny 3 English people are saying it is an accident and say that proves the bias yet ignore the fact that you as a Welshman are the only one calling it deliberate and somehow don't think that proves bias. You're just being a massive hypocrite.
You're clearly being biased.I missed it in real time, but for me in that clip he knows where Taylor is, he actually seems to regain his balance and then his leg comes across far more than it needs to, to make contact with Taylor's head. His fall after is not because he was originally off-balance, but because he stood on Taylor's head and he lost his balance then. Whether he intentionally went for the head, or didn't care about Taylor's safety I don't know, but I feel he could have done far more to avoid making contact with Taylor's head and it was just accidental.
Yeah Mr Angry. Never said it was mr violent or whatever. Angry people tend to lash out in anger or do "reckless" stuff.Mr Angry, not Mr Dirty or Mr Violent.
Initial reaction watching in real time was that it was outright dirty. Watching it more often I'm less convinced of that but it was probably reckless, possibly avoidable, and left Barnes little choice.
It would be a sad end for a great club servant if that's the last time he wears a Quins shirt.
You're the only one claiming he is dirty, that's the difference.Am I the only one? I mean, the only one on here, sure, but the only one? I'm sure you don't think that.
So you accept some people can objectively come to that conclusion but not me because I'm Welsh. Is that your argument? Can any Welsh people justifiably think that was naughty? Or is it only people from other countries?
I said, I don't need the previous stuff to justify my argument, in fact it should be judged on its own merit. Ignore that if you prefer, just look at the incident. Why are there tonnes of English people who say it's deliberate? I've seen it be condemned by lots of people.
You seem to know me and my thoughts very well. I won't lie, I've never had loads of time for Brown but I don't hate him, I don't hate anyone. I've got a lot of time for many English players on a personal level and the fact that I don't for Mike Brown isn't really an indictment on me. Christ, his nickname is literally mr angry. That's what his own teammates call him. Is it such a stretch that mana who is renowned for his temper and short fuse just saw red and did that deliberately? I mean, most players seem to go through their entire career without doing anything like this but maybe it was just a freak accident.
I've never seen Mike Phillips stamp someone on the head like that but if he did I'd call him out on it. 100%You're the only one claiming he is dirty, that's the difference.
I think it was reckless and he deserved a red, I don't agree that he is a dirty player and that he intended to stamp on his head. Yeah his nickname is Mr Angry, Phillips nickname was Spiky, doesn't mean either were dirty. Brown gets in scuffles and gets in the faces of players a lot but he has not been a dirty player his whole career and the Welsh appear to be the only ones who are convinced he is.