Premiership Rugby 19/20 - Rd 14

[Which Tyler]

Is it greedy to hope we can keep this up?
A try every 7 minutes really would make me happy

 

[Which Tyler]

So glad CMK handled that we'll.
Couple of years ago that would have been an automatic yellow and replays to see if red

 

[EdBirch]

So far 1 from 3 for my predictions

 

[Scotty]

Chiefs looked good, very physical but that tigers penalty count helped alot but over all a BP win taking us more than 5 ahead of sale before the game next weekend


Just watched the highlights of the first half they were showing which had no crown noise from the first half...was wierd

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Looking forward to this game the most.
Bristol should thrive in this.

 

[Which Tyler]

I don't mind the lack of crowd noise anywhere near as much as I thought I would.
You can hear the ref and TJs so much better - and the way the players communicate with each other.
The tension and intensity are still there.

It's different, but I wouldnt say .

And as I say that, the PA plays "come on you Bath" FFS

 

[Which Tyler]

Try JJ, channeling his Cokanasiga

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Why no crowd noise now? They doing half with and half without?

 

[Jimbo]

Honestly the application of the law needs looking at, Sarries instantly conceded A penalty try Yet bears repeatedly cheating and don't, if you forget that it is sarries for a minute it somehow doesn't seem right that a team can get a lesser punishment for repeated infringements vs a single one, I realise you can judge incidents slightly differently but they were all in the red zone.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Honestly the application of the law needs looking at, Sarries instantly conceded A penalty try Yet bears repeatedly cheating and don't, if you forget that it is sarries for a minute it somehow doesn't seem right that a team can get a lesser punishment for repeated infringements vs a single one, I realise you can judge incidents slightly differently but they were all in the red zone.

The action of the Sarries player directly prevented a try being scored. The actions of the Bristol bears players did not.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

To be fair the referee did explain why there was no penalty try but there was a yellow card:
The penalty infringement came before the maul started moving, so advantage was being played, and then when the maul collapsed it was because it tripped over Saracens players - not because of a Bristol infringement.

 

[Guthrum]

Have watched Exeter V Leicester and Bristol V Saracens and was not very impressed . My main thought was that we really do need better referees if the game is to prosper . I thought the ref for Bristol`s game was hostile to Saracens and favoured Bristol and the other match was spoilt by offsides ( Unspotted) We are not going to get our game back with this.

 

[Jimbo]

The action of the Sarries player directly prevented a try being scored. The actions of the Bristol bears players did not.

So what you are saying is cheating repeatedly is ok as long as you are wise enough to do it before it can be deemed as 'directly preventing', I wouldn't have a huge issue if it was simply a 1 to 1 ratio my point was more the repeated infringement....

 

[TRF_Olyy]

So what you are saying is cheating repeatedly is ok as long as you are wise enough to do it before it can be deemed as 'directly preventing', I wouldn't have a huge issue if it was simply a 1 to 1 ratio my point was more the repeated infringement....

You can't award a penalty try for repeated infringements, that's what cards are for
Penalty tries are when a clear and obvious try was prevented through foul play

 

[Jimbo]

You can't award a penalty try for repeated infringements, that's what cards are for
Penalty tries are when a clear and obvious try was prevented through foul play

I am aware of current laws and applications , You are however Missing the point, does it seem fair to you that a team can cheat 3 or 4 times in the red and just concede a penalty Quite often at no real disadvantage as it was the same lineout which the offence was previously conceded for, the hooker and jumper then have to perfect it again, IMHO if u are going to give a penalty try in the last 10 minutes which is likely to cost the game, you damned better give the bennificery of said winning try the most harsh punishment from then on for every infringement, in the absence of a penalty try a card per incident, of course Sarries are the Enemy of Rugby in England so few will feel any sympathy.

 

[Which Tyler]

I am aware of current laws and applications ,You are however Missing the point

Current? Exactly when was a penalty try awarded for repeat infringement rather than an infringement that prevents a try. I've only been watching the game for 35 years or so, but I really don't remember such a time. Perfectly mpossible that itnjust my memory, but either way, it's not a new thing.
Disagreeing =/= missing the point.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

So what you are saying is cheating repeatedly is ok as long as you are wise enough to do it before it can be deemed as 'directly preventing', I wouldn't have a huge issue if it was simply a 1 to 1 ratio my point was more the repeated infringement....

That's not even close to what I'm saying and you know it. What I'm saying is that the current criteria for awarding a penalty try is that the infringement needed to directly prevent a try being scored (ie if you removed the infringing player there would have been nothing to prevent the try). Bristol committed repeat infringements that justified a yellow but none of the infringements directly prevented a try as other players were always around who were in a position to stop it. In the Saracens case, the Bristol player was driving to the line and the ONLY player who prevented him did so illegally. Had George not come in at the side, there as nobody who could have stopped Bristol scoring a try. That is the difference as set out by the laws of the game. You may not like it but that's how it is.

No it's not unfair because both sides are subjected to the same rules. A genuine grievance that I have is when there is inconsistency in how many repeat offenses sides can get away with, with some getting a yellow almost instantly whereas others can repeatedly infringe without a yellow. That does need clarifying for consistency but the penalty try / repeat infringement situation is dealing with 2 different sanctions for subtly different situations.

 

[will311293]

Thought all teams struggled slightly with re-enforced rules at breakdown and the sluggish nature of not having played competitively in a while. obviously show's how important pre-season friendlies are!. Watched all the game's yesterday and would say that there were very few moments of genuine class yesterday compared to what we saw before the break but that's to be expected.

Breakdown will be an interesting time of it as feel's like the Jackler has a lot more power than before as attackers can't just throw themselves off feet as much as they used to. Will make interesting viewing today with Wasps having fielded a pretty jackling backrow of Youngs, Shields and the king himself Willis (if anyone ever fancies seeing how good he is... on insta you can see his flexibility and it's painful to watch ).

Games will ramp up to full speed and quality i'm sure but could offer some potential slip ups as new players bed in and people regain form. for example, didn't think Quins stood much of a chance against Sale but they were quicker and more efficient with ball and Sale looked lethargic as new boys bedded in. Worcester looked on for a win before red (obvs very early so hard to call) and leciester gave exeter a good run, Even an understrength Sarries (compared to what they had/have) gave Bristol a scare.

Interested to see if anyone else has any particular players they are looking forward to seeing in resumption of season atm. Obviously with games more frequent, bigger squads will need to be utilised so more young talent will play. For us people like Umaga, Willis(x2), Velacott, Flament, Simmonds, Barbeary etc will make a huge difference.

 

[Which Tyler]

Oh, and that JJ try - Inspired by Coka

Jonathan Joseph finishes acrobatically in the corner for Bath’s bonus point

Jonathan Joseph finishes acrobatically in the corner for Bath’s bonus point - Official Video from Premiership Rugby

www.premiershiprugby.com

 

[Rinkadink]

At least the weather is much better than the Bristol vs Sarries game yesterday, horrible conditions.

Saints looking dominant so far.