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Italy v New Zealand - 23/11/2024 (20.10)

IMO it should be a home game only thing, but could agree with the above (not that anyone would ever say no)
up until the 90's i think it was only done away from home, because its not just a warcry as much as people like to simplify it to that, its a challenge to the other team "come on, this is going to be an epic clash"....but its also supposed to be an honour to receive, it was a thank you to the hosting team and their supporters. Thats why we do them a funerals (we're not threatening the deceased) or when someone we know receives an award or something, its supposed to be a celebration

watch this, its a honour to recieve

 
Pretty messy game for the ABs, but somehow understandable, as being the last of a grueling long year.

Overall, a mixed first year for Razor, whose mindset favored a more conservative approach in selection, probably due to the fear of not losing too many games on a very tough, opponent wise, calendar.

The first row unit has now a great depth, but what about the second row? Is Scott Barrett the answer as NZ's captain? Is him or Va'ai the undisputed starters or Razor should try bringing in more imposing players, weight and height wise?

With the departure of Sam Cane, I believe the loose trio could sort itself out, by playing Savea at 7 and Sititi at 8. But who's going to get his hands on the 6 jersey? Is Finau the answer or should they try finding an enforcer in the mold of Kaino, if any?

The scrum half position is well covered for the future, but what about 10? Is Mo'unga the answer when he gets back from Japan, or should Razor start blooding other (younger) players in?

The midfield still looks like it hasn't been sorted out since Nonu and Smith retired, so what combo would do best? Should Ioane stay at centre or move to the wing? Is Jordie good enough to start at 12?

The outside backs, in the Clarke/Jordan/Te'lea formula, look menacing enough, but could there be other options as well?

Would love to hear what the Kiwis say about all this .

;)
Razor has been a disappointment for most kiwis i talk to, he got the gig on the back of innovating because we'd had the better part of 20 years of evolving (henry, hansen, foster each the assistant to the one before)...and its looks very similar to what fozzie would have done

barret has never struck me as a captain and i feel hes one of these guys that plays on instinct rather than brains....so so asking him to think is going to diminish his game

rumour has it savea has a clause in his contract about 8 being his favours position, only covering 7....so doubt we'll ever see him at 7 permanently

the idea RM coming back is seen as the solution worries the hell out of me....he wasn't world class when he left....and now hes older and been playing in completely different systems...like other selections its just stopping us truely developing the next generation

personally i think jordie and ioane have stagnated....they dont gel with each other, we make almost no midfield breaks and if we do the other one seems surprised and it dies quickly
 
up until the 90's i think it was only done away from home, because its not just a warcry as much as people like to simplify it to that, its a challenge to the other team "come on, this is going to be an epic clash"....but its also supposed to be an honour to receive, it was a thank you to the hosting team and their supporters. Thats why we do them a funerals (we're not threatening the deceased) or when someone we know receives an award or something, its supposed to be a celebration

watch this, its a honour to recieve


further to this....people dont have to like it...but its like when you go to someones house and they make you a meal that you dont like....the fact you dont like it is more about your preference or taste...the intent was a positive gesture by the host
 
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