England 2022/23

[Geordie]

Also worth noting that Rato Naulago is "unav" list - not sure how long he has been in the convo

Yeah i noticed that...how odd.

 

[Scotty]

Also worth noting that Rato Naulago is "unav" list - not sure how long he has been in the convo

Is he the Bristol winger who got a red for high tackle, served his ban and got another in that the next game he played?

 

[Geordie]

Hes clearly taking the chance to have a good look at the locks available to him.

Ribbans
Robinson
Tizzard
Coles
Itoje
Hill

 

[Geordie]

FORWARDS

Alex Coles (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 37 caps)
Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 41 caps)
Ellis Genge (Bristol Bears, 39 caps)
Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)
Jonny Hill (Sale Sharks, 15 caps)
Maro Itoje (Saracens, 58 caps)
George McGuigan (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
Tom Pearson (London Irish, uncapped)
Val Rapava Ruskin (Gloucester Rugby, uncapped)
David Ribbans (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Sean Robinson (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
Bevan Rodd (Sale Sharks, 2 caps)
Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, 14 caps)
Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, 52 caps)
Jack Singleton (Gloucester Rugby, 3 caps)
Hugh Tizard (Saracens, uncapped)
Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 64 caps)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 70 caps)
Jack Willis (unattached, 4 caps)

BACKS

Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 12 caps)
Owen Farrell (Saracens, 97 caps)
George Furbank (Northampton Saints, 6 caps)
Will Joseph (London Irish, 1 cap)
Max Malins (Saracens, 14 caps)
Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 69 caps)
Cadan Murley (Harlequins, uncapped)
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 42 caps)
Guy Porter (Leicester Tigers, 2 caps)
Raffi Quirke (Sale Sharks, 2 caps)
Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 48 caps)
Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 13 caps)
Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, 13 caps)
Manu Tuilagi (Sale Sharks, 46 caps)
Jack van Poortlviet (Leicester Tigers, 3 caps)
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 117 caps)
Unavailable for selection due to injury: Alfie Barbeary, Ollie Chessum, Trevor Davison, Nic Dolly, Charlie Ewels, George Ford, Tommy Freeman, Jamie George, Sam Jeffries, Nick Isiekwe, Courtney Lawes, Lewis Ludlam, Louis Lynagh, Rato Naulago, Harry Randall, Will Stuart, Sam Underhill, Jack Walker.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Naulago on the injured list but no mention of Arundell, lol

 

[Geordie]

Louis Lynagh also??

 

[Scotty]

Few players im gutted for because they could do with as much gametime as possible pre WC are Chessum, Freeman and Arundell. All 3 have alot of talent but not that much gametime.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

May being retained is an odd one - even if theoretically fit he still dislocated his elbow like two weeks ago, that's gonna be compromised
With only 3 games for Gloucester since January you'd have thought he'd be better off staying with his club

 

[Which Tyler]

Let's have this in a better format, shall we? (copy/pasting someone else's work - they beat me to it)

Ellis Genge (Bristol Bears, 39 caps)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 70 caps)
Bevan Rodd (Sale Sharks, 2 caps)
Val Rapava Ruskin (Gloucester Rugby, uncapped)

Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 37 caps)
George McGuigan (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
Jack Singleton (Gloucester Rugby, 3 caps)

Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)
Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, 52 caps)

Maro Itoje (Saracens, 58 caps)
Jonny Hill (Sale Sharks, 15 caps)
Hugh Tizard (Saracens, uncapped)
David Ribbans (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Sean Robinson (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)

Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 41 caps)
Jack Willis (unattached, 4 caps)
Alex Coles (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Tom Pearson (London Irish, uncapped)

Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 64 caps)
Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, 14 caps)


Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 117 caps)
Jack van Poortlviet (Leicester Tigers, 3 caps)
Raffi Quirke (Sale Sharks, 2 caps)

Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 13 caps)

Owen Farrell (Saracens, 97 caps)
Manu Tuilagi (Sale Sharks, 46 caps)
Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 48 caps)
Guy Porter (Leicester Tigers, 2 caps)
Will Joseph (London Irish, 1 cap)

Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 69 caps)
Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 12 caps)
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 42 caps)
Max Malins (Saracens, 14 caps)
Cadan Murley (Harlequins, uncapped)

Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, 13 caps)
George Furbank (Northampton Saints, 6 caps)

 

[Duck a l'Orange]

Joe Marchant ran over Eddie's dog confirmed.

 

[AngloScotsHybrid]

Sean Robinson is 31. Not exactly looking to the future.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

World cup next year so it doesn't really matter that much considering he's only in cause of injuries
If they view him as more of a finished product than X,Y,Z youngster then makes sense to have him in now

 

[Scotty]

Let's have this in a better format, shall we? (copy/pasting someone else's work - they beat me to it)

Ellis Genge (Bristol Bears, 39 caps)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 70 caps)
Bevan Rodd (Sale Sharks, 2 caps)
Val Rapava Ruskin (Gloucester Rugby, uncapped)

Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 37 caps)
George McGuigan (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
Jack Singleton (Gloucester Rugby, 3 caps)

Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)
Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, 52 caps)

Maro Itoje (Saracens, 58 caps)
Jonny Hill (Sale Sharks, 15 caps)
Hugh Tizard (Saracens, uncapped)
David Ribbans (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Sean Robinson (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)

Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 41 caps)
Jack Willis (unattached, 4 caps)
Alex Coles (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Tom Pearson (London Irish, uncapped)

Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 64 caps)
Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, 14 caps)


Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 117 caps)
Jack van Poortlviet (Leicester Tigers, 3 caps)
Raffi Quirke (Sale Sharks, 2 caps)

Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 13 caps)

Owen Farrell (Saracens, 97 caps)
Manu Tuilagi (Sale Sharks, 46 caps)
Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 48 caps)
Guy Porter (Leicester Tigers, 2 caps)
Will Joseph (London Irish, 1 cap)

Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 69 caps)
Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 12 caps)
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 42 caps)
Max Malins (Saracens, 14 caps)
Cadan Murley (Harlequins, uncapped)

Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, 13 caps)
George Furbank (Northampton Saints, 6 caps)

So from that vs Argentina i would like to see(not EJ))

Genge LCD Sinks
Itoje Hill
Willis Billy Curry
JvP Smith
Manu Slade(because i like this combo)
Malins Steward Nowell

Mcguigan
Rodd
Hayes
Tizard
Simmonds(though i do rate Pearson
Quirke
Faz
Murley

 

[Noonz]

Few players im gutted for because they could do with as much gametime as possible pre WC are Chessum, Freeman and Arundell. All 3 have alot of talent but not that much gametime.

Arundell could feature at some point, right? I thought he was with the team rehabbing

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Arundell could feature at some point, right? I thought he was with the team rehabbing

Don't think so - part of the EPS agreement limits the number of changes to the squad,
He's not named as a player and he's not named on the injury list so I think he's fully out

Though, that said, who knows what the rules are these days - everything's so hush hush between the RFU/PRL

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Hes clearly taking the chance to have a good look at the locks available to him.

Ribbans
Robinson
Tizzard
Coles
Itoje
Hill

4 of whom have collectively as much international experience as I do.

Ewels got broken in Eng training, but do we have any idea what's up with Isiekwe and Chessum or how their injuries were caused? Isiekwe hasn't played since Australia while the first I heard about Chessum was that he was on crutches in an Eng camp.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

do we have any idea what's up with Isiekwe

Unspecified surgery in September:

Saracens update: Nick Isiekwe a doubt for 2023 Six Nations start

Saracens boss Mark McCall has provided an update on the length of time that England lock Nick Isiekwe will be missing from the game.

www.rugbypass.com

 

[Geordie]

4 of whom have collectively as much international experience as I do.

Very true, but with Lawes out for concussion protocols, Launchbury a fading force, Johnny Hill an inconsistent problem, Chessum and Isiekwe out injured and Ewells a waste of a space...we need to look at what we have.

Now despite being a massive Robinson fan Id be surprised of he became squad regular....but Tizzard looks like he could become the lock that were missing...BUT he's still developing....

Ribbans a big powerhouse but not sure he's the answer either.

Ribbans - Itoje
Tizzard - Itoje
Tizzard - Robinson
Ribbans - Robinson
I'd like to see a couple of those combos get some gametime and see how they go.

I'd wager they at the moment Itoje Hill is rhe starting combo..but it's not unmovable...

 

[rjjb1]

Don't think so - part of the EPS agreement limits the number of changes to the squad,
He's not named as a player and he's not named on the injury list so I think he's fully out

Though, that said, who knows what the rules are these days - everything's so hush hush between the RFU/PRL

Arundell is on the injury list - the website has been amended to reflect this.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Is Sean Robinson even any good? I don't really watch much Newcastle. Seems like a waste in the squad.