A Political Thread

[Gavin]

I love all the Brexiters saying that they feel betrayed by the British politicians - did they not vote to 'take back control and put the future of the UK in the hands of British politicians'... Ironic isn't it?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I love all the Brexiters saying that they feel betrayed by the British politicians - did they not vote to 'take back control and put the future of the UK in the hands of British politicians'... Ironic isn't it?

To be fair though, they have a point. Although it's not just them who have been betrayed, the politicians have betrayed the entire country by putting party politics first right from the off and at no point has the national interest ever factored into their thinking. This is part of the problem with career politicians, all they know is politics, all they have allegiance to is themselves and their party. Everything they do is looked at through the lens of how it will make them and their party look. Whether an idea is good or terrible really doesn't matter in the slightest to them, only that is LOOKS good.

 

[Amiga500]

If they all agree its a shite deal - why vote for it?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

So the independent group have renamed themselves cuk
Change UK


Uk politics is wild atm

 

[Which Tyler]

It's official then; she can't even resign successfully: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47752017

 

[General Melchett]

To be fair though, they have a point. Although it's not just them who have been betrayed, the politicians have betrayed the entire country by putting party politics first right from the off and at no point has the national interest ever factored into their thinking. This is part of the problem with career politicians, all they know is politics, all they have allegiance to is themselves and their party. Everything they do is looked at through the lens of how it will make them and their party look. Whether an idea is good or terrible really doesn't matter in the slightest to them, only that is LOOKS good.

Almost the entire house is guilty of using Brexit as vehicle to play party politics and very few have voted based on the national interest:

1. Far right Tories looking to oust May and grab power themselves
2. Labour calling for a General Election just to get into power
3. SNP pushing for a second ref so that it sets a precedent and strengthens their case for Indyref2.

 

[big ginger 8]

So the independent group have renamed themselves cuk
Change UK


Uk politics is wild atm

Wow, just setting up any right wing trolls perfectly with that.

 

[General Melchett]

Seeing as her deal on it's own has been voted down emphatically, I see three viable options left. The customs union and confirmatory vote were the two most popular choices to emerge from the indicative votes. Let them vote again on Monday to see if that is still the case and then have three final votes on these options:

A - May's deal & customs union
B - May's deal & confirmatory vote
C - May's deal & both customs union and confirmatory vote.

I believe that one of these three will get a majority and that one shall be the winner. We then go to the EU and ask for a long extension based on the winning option being rolled out to which they will agree. Simples.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Place your bets on a 4th "meaningful vote"

 

[Which Tyler]

Place your bets on a 4th "meaningful vote"

April 9th

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

https://www.collegetimes.com/entert...cKoQFdKPe6TUuWkTMWzNTddAiUvu1tWWmOZmgdCVBBiss

This is absolutely hilarious! Shows how stupid holding a referendum on such a monumental political decision is if you ask me!

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Whilst i'm sure their are people like that, I never trust some radio show call ins.

and too me that screams scripted.
Especially the I voted remain bit.

I don't know.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Whilst i'm sure their are people like that, I never trust some radio show call ins.

and too me that screams scripted.
Especially the I voted remain bit.

I don't know.

I hadn't considered that, you're probably bang on, a little too satirical to be real.

Short of invasion its definitely a real opinion though, shows a lack of any knowledge or cop on.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Time for a break from the Brexit ****. The sun is out and shining; well it is where I am. Turn off the news, social media and forget about it for two days.

For absolutely no reason, here is Freddie the Pika to entertain and to take minds off this whole mess:

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

I hadn't considered that, you're probably bang on, a little too satirical to be real.

Short of invasion its definitely a real opinion though, shows a lack of any knowledge or cop on.

Yeah, I think the governing party in the UK wont currently entertain anything beyond trying to impose starvation on Ireland... at this stage.

This may be staged, but make no mistake that this sort of disgusting attitude towards our neighours is slowly pervading British society. If an MP is making such noises then you can be damn sure it is a sentiment bubbling away in the Daily Mail & Murdoch media spheres. Those guys shape public opinion here.

Thankfully, I think even the most ardent Britidh nationalist is waking up and smelling the coffee that despite the impending death of British manufacturing, this political cock up is still something that can proudly display the "made in UK" hallmark.

 

[Which Tyler]

In news that I'm sure will shock everyone, the Tories appear to split on the prospect of a snap election at the moment: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-47763034

Of course, a new GE (breaking 2 of May's promises, which is obviously so much better than breaking one by holding a 2nd ref.) Is nothing to do with what's good for the country, and would do absolutely nothing to solve the current clusterfuck. It will split her own party anlittle worse than they already are (or is she relying on the old line that when push comes to shove, conservatives fall in line?). But that it would split labour and drag them down to the same level.
I guess playing party politics is better than playing civil warfare, but... for once it's be good if an MP paid some thought to the good of the country

 

[Reiser99]

Wasn't this suppose be a great exercise in democracy, a shining beacon for democracy everywhere?

 

[General Melchett]

In news that I'm sure will shock everyone, the Tories appear to split on the prospect of a snap election at the moment: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-47763034

Of course, a new GE (breaking 2 of May's promises, which is obviously so much better than breaking one by holding a 2nd ref.) Is nothing to do with what's good for the country, and would do absolutely nothing to solve the current clusterfuck. It will split her own party anlittle worse than they already are (or is she relying on the old line that when push comes to shove, conservatives fall in line?). But that it would split labour and drag them down to the same level.
I guess playing party politics is better than playing civil warfare, but... for once it's be good if an MP paid some thought to the good of the country

It's staggering that almost the whole house is playing politics and yet still using the ruse of 'national interest'. Maybe we are better off being governed by the so called unelected bureaucrats in Brussels because the shower in Westminster are proving themselves to be much worse.

If the EU offered every British citizen a million quid and agreed to let the UK cherry pick anything it wanted in the WA then May would still be hell bent on delivering Brexit to protect her legacy. Labour only want to gain power, the SNP are angling for Indyref2 and the far right tossers like Boris and co just want to gain power and further their careers.

 

[ncurd]

More indicative votes today,

Still too many plans, and nobodies combined with a peoples vote to actually get a real majority.

 

[General Melchett]

More indicative votes today,

Still too many plans, and nobodies combined with a peoples vote to actually get a real majority.

I hope they don't vote on the same things. They should choose the top 2 so that we can see where the votes for the losers end up going which will give a more accurate picture of where Parliament is at.

If nothing gets a majority then I think we are heading for a long extension with May trying to get her deal through again after bribing the DUP. I just don't see her resigning until later in the year unless most of her cabinet quit.