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Labour to whip Common Market 2.0 this time could be a shift if Tories get on board.

I did muse Nick Boles as a potential leader candidate then read his wikipedia page and personal life then realised he has no chance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Boles
 
Labour to whip Common Market 2.0 this time could be a shift if Tories get on board.

I did muse Nick Boles as a potential leader candidate then read his wikipedia page and personal life then realised he has no chance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Boles
Winchester College? But that's merely for the top 1%, not the 0.1%!
And Oxford rather than Cambridge is practically career suicide for a wannabe Tory PM.


Am I right in thinking the Revoke petition is supposed to be discussed in a few minutes? Or is JRM intending to just talk right through its time, and disallow it.
 
Am I right in thinking the Revoke petition is supposed to be discussed in a few minutes? Or is JRM intending to just talk right through its time, and disallow it.
Its a Westminster Hall debate

https://calendar.parliament.uk/

I have no idea what that actually means. The debate is a waste of time either way if the government wishes to ignore it.
 
Me either, though yes, debating any petition would be a waste of time, but I've seen them brought up in parliament though (to 2 men and a dog)
 
So indicative votes on C, D, E and G.
The following is the BBC'S brief summary of each:

Motion C: Customs union
Proposer: Ken Clarke, Conservative
This option commits the government to negotiating "a permanent and comprehensive UK-wide customs union with the EU" as part of any Brexit deal.
This arrangement would give the UK a closer trading relationship with the EU and reduce the need for some (but not all) checks at the Irish border.
Media captionConfused by Brexit jargon? Reality Check unpacks the basics.
But it would prevent the UK striking independent trade deals with other countries, and has previously been ruled out by Mrs May.
A version of this proposal received the most support in the first round, falling just six votes short of a majority.


Motion D: 'Common Market 2.0'
Proposer: Nick Boles, Conservative
This proposal would mean joining the European Free Trade Association and European Economic Area, with countries such as Norway.
It means the UK would remain part of the EU single market and would retain freedom of movement, so British citizens would keep the right to live and work in the EU and vice-versa.
In the last round, 188 MPs voted for this plan and 283 voted against.


Motion E: Confirmatory public vote
Proposers: Peter Kyle and Phil Wilson, Labour
This gives the public a vote to approve any Brexit deal passed by Parliament, before it can be implemented.
Tabled last time by Labour former minister Dame Margaret Beckett, this option won the highest number of votes, with 268 MPs for and 295 against.


Motion G: Parliamentary supremacy
Proposer: Joanna Cherry, Scottish National Party
This option offers a series of steps to prevent the UK leaving the EU without a deal. First, it requires the government to seek an extension if a deal has not been agreed two days before the deadline for leaving.
If the EU does not agree to an extension, on the day before the UK was due to leave, MPs would be asked to choose between a no-deal Brexit or revoking Article 50 to stop Brexit altogether.
In the event of revoking Article 50, an inquiry would be held to find out what type of future relationship with the EU could command majority support in the UK and be acceptable to Brussels.
MPs previously voted against a proposal to cancel Brexit by Joanna Cherry, but have not considered this plan before.
 
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C, D, E, G

Interesting, cutdown to 4
 
C) customs union membership
D) Common Market 2.0
E) a confirmatory referendum
G) replacing the no-deal Brexit default with a no-Brexit default
 
Speaker under fire for motions he's selected,

Basically if it were miles off last time he's not selecting it.
 
One Sky commentator saying tonight's votes are a waste of time as all Tory leadership contenders will be pandering to the far right Brexiteers and will promise to discard any amendment made to the political declaration which includes a customs union or whatever.

The only way one of tonight's options might come to fruition is if there is a snap GE and the winning party chooses one option and puts it in their manifesto and will therefore have to stick to it.
 
The problem is once one options clearly commands a majority in the commons (Common Market 2.0 is looking likely) its becomes very hard to not to pursue implementing it.
 
The problem is once one options clearly commands a majority in the commons (Common Market 2.0 is looking likely) its becomes very hard to not to pursue implementing it.

Labour are whipping on it and would probably stick to it if they get in power but I just can't see the Tories uniting and agreeing to it under a new leader. Their division will continue.
 
Sounds like there's a streaker in the gallery.

They're trying to talk through it, but largely failing, with several references to things going ***s up, or getting to the bottom of things, the naked truth etc
 
Twitter tells me there several climate change protesters, they need to stop the puns though...
 
Don't know if I tuned in late but the Tory benches look mostly empty when they were winding up the debate just before voting. Not sure if they have deliberately stayed away to avoid taking part in the process.
 
Don't know if I tuned in late but the Tory benches look mostly empty when they were winding up the debate just before voting. Not sure if they have deliberately stayed away to avoid taking part in the process.
It was sparsely populated for a good few hours (still more than usual for the time of day), but they would have been wandering around outside, or sat in their study. They're there, they'll vote, and they'll turn up to be seen for the televised announcement.
 
It was sparsely populated for a good few hours (still more than usual for the time of day), but they would have been wandering around outside, or sat in their study. They're there, they'll vote, and they'll turn up to be seen for the televised announcement.

Cheers for clarifying. Perhaps some are in the bar or maybe that will be the results are announced. I wonder if May will commit to considering anything that gets a majority. There were suggestions that she might go for some kind of a run off against her deal even though it's been defeated three times.
 
Apparently there is talk that none of the votes has a majority still in which case we are back to exactly where we started.

Why the **** can't they agree to use a transferable vote system, eliminating those with the lowest number and come to one option that has a majority.
 
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Seriously these MPs...some of these are close but we need to remove abstaining and do a run off. Vote this or that both of which are a deal of confirmatory vote.
 
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