A Political Thread pt. 2

[Jimcardiff]

Youth historically doesn't vote and you have to drag some voters back.

Or we can stick to an 80 seat Tory majority....

In Wales there has been a swing towards independence ,Labour flashing the jack about here will not help them at all.

 

[ncurd]

In Wales there has been a swing towards independence ,Labour flashing the jack about here will not help them at all.

Those folks are going to vote PC not Tory so less of a worry.

Labour have also got to get out of the idea of sole forming the majority in governments but that is a separate subject.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

 

[The Seeker]

It's so nice not hearing Trump's irritating voice blather on and on into microphones like he did everyday for the past 4 years. I feel like I've been released from sensory prison.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

DUP call to trigger Article 16 to be debated at Westminster

Arlene Foster said unionist anger and concern over the Northern Ireland Protocol must be heard.

www.thejournal.ie

**** off you miserable ****

 

[Gavin]

DUP call to trigger Article 16 to be debated at Westminster

Arlene Foster said unionist anger and concern over the Northern Ireland Protocol must be heard.

www.thejournal.ie

**** off you miserable ****

As if the British government are going to listen to the DUP. The Brits want rid of Northern Ireland and are dealing with their own post-Brexit issues.

The added costs of Brexit for businesses are mad, let alone the additional red tape.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Lindsey Graham the very definition of a hypocritical GOP Senator.

 

[The Seeker]

Lindsey Graham the very definition of a hypocritical GOP Senator.

The Republican party is full of fakes and frauds like him. I'm an Independent and don't align myself with them or the Democrats. But the Republicans are much worse.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

The last question answered by Raskin is very important. Laughable that Van Der Veen (a personal injury lawyer) gave an answer to the question before. Classic Whataboutism.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Witness to be called at the Senate trial. Probably won't change the result of conviction but still delays things and about a phone call Trump had with McCarthy during the riot.

 

[Reiser99]

Witness to be called at the Senate trial. Probably won't change the result of conviction but still delays things and about a phone call Trump had with McCarthy during the riot.

Only thing that could change it is if there is a huge shift in public opinion and senators feel they need to go with the public mood.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Only thing that could change it is if there is a huge shift in public opinion and senators feel they need to go with the public mood.

True. Still all of it should be heard. Now whether once the conviction fails a second vote to disqualify him from public office can be held is what I am interested in. And then only a simple majority would be needed.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

7 Republican Senators voted to convict him. Still no surprise at the result. Will there be a second vote to disqualify him next?

 

[duncanb]

The hope would be , GOP would not want him in 4 yrs.
As always with US just convicte on minor tax issues to disbare him from office.

 

[Reiser99]

Enjoyed this article.

In the fairytale land of Brexit, we’re trading with the world. It’s a fantasy | Nick Cohen

The Tories – and much of the media – would have us believe we’re living in Shangri-la

www.theguardian.com

 

[Which Tyler]

The hope would be , GOP would not want him in 4 yrs.
As always with US just convicte on minor tax issues to disbare him from office.

Ex-Convicts aren't barred from office (though they are often barred from voting...)

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Ex-Convicts aren't barred from office (though they are often barred from voting...)

Technically I'm not even sure current convicts are barred as the Constitution doesn't say this. I really wouldn't put it past the Republicans or their voters at this stage to actually vote in Trump even if he was in a jail cell.

Now that would be one hell of a Constitutional crisis to sort out.

Also: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/13/mitch-mcconnell-trump-republicans

McConnell and the Republicans really are such a bunch of lying, 2 faced hypocritical *****. This is full on Orwellian double speak and now they are blaming Antifa and Pelosi for the storming of the capitol! They are ******* insane...

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Republicans did not just acquit Trump – they let themselves off too | Lawrence Douglas

Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz spread the big lie. Mitch McConnell fed the beast for years. Culpability spreads far and wide

www.theguardian.com

 

[duncanb]

Ex-Convicts aren't barred from office (though they are often barred from voting...)

Sorry my mistake confused with other countries but maybe his tax invasion is so bad he will be in jail or a tax haven with no extradition rights to US.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Plan for campus free speech post prompts autonomy warning

Concerns are raised as ministers announce new free speech role to stop "silencing" in universities.

www.bbc.co.uk

Government trying to promote "free speech" on uni campuses.

Whilst I agree with the idea that free speech and exchange of ideas should be protected, I don't think they have thought this through. Simple ways around this would be things like simply not inviting speakers who hold certain views, students not turning up to talks by these speakers if they do and a bunch of other actions people can take in exercising their free speech.

It's like the right wing complaining about cancel culture in the USA after ignoring the fact that they actually promoted it in the first place. They frequently threatened to boycott companies for not doing what they wanted and said if you disagree with what a company does, don't buy their products. That's exactly what people did to influence company behaviour and now they are whinging that companies are reacting to people refusing to buy their products and calling it cancel culture.

As far as I can see, this will be unenforceable and will result in people with extreme views demanding to be heard at Unis and demanding their talks be fully attended or else their free speech is being infringed.