A Political Thread pt. 2

[TRF_Olyy]

ffs

 

[ncurd]

ffs

Those are the lunatics we expect to support him. Genuinely worried that people like Wallace are going that way if he wins the non-lunatic vote it could be bad.

Might be with Mordaunt and Sunak getting 100 votes a piece and doing an immediate deal if whittle down to final two to keep him out.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

ffs

Yep just banking he doesn't get to 100 threshold, because if he does he'll get back in if Tory membership get to vote. The thought if it got that far is pretty stomach churning. An absolute farce!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

After the last 12yrs of politics I feel like it's just inevitable that BoJo gets back in - it's very much on brand

 

[ncurd]

After the last 12yrs of politics I feel like it's just inevitable that BoJo gets back in - it's very much on brand

Just have to hope Labour don't loose much of 39% poll lead they currently have in 2 years. It will shrink but not by that much unless Starmer shoots King Charles in public view.

 

[General Melchett]

If he gets back in then surely the Tory MPs who turfed him out will try and do the same again and he won't be able to get anything through Parliament. I don't understand what is to be gained by letting him back in unless they think he can win a snap election. He'll only have the support of 100+ MPs out of 650. It's almost as if the new Tory party rules requiring 100 MPs to back him were created to facilitate a Boris win.

Oh and I wish people would stop saying he has a mandate until January 2025. He lost his mandate when his Govt was dissolved after he broke the law and dragged the office of No.10 into the gutter with sleaze, cover ups and corruption.

 

[Saintjay]

Just have to hope Labour don't loose much of 39% poll lead they currently have in 2 years. It will shrink but not by that much unless Starmer shoots King Charles in public view.

I'm more concerned the novara media, luxury communism now crowd having the capacity to still shoot Starmer in the next two years. He's a red Tory in a few people's eyes.

 

[Which Tyler]

I'm more concerned the novara media, luxury communism now crowd having the capacity to still shoot Starmer in the next two years. He's a red Tory in a few people's eyes.

So was Blair.

Both are infinitely better than blue tories... until we invaded Iraq, at least, after which he was just better than blue tories

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Been a bit buried, but Labour MPs can misbehave too. Any other day this would have been higher up the news agenda.

By-election will be an interesting early test for the new PM.

Labour MP Chris Matheson resigns over ‘unwanted sexual advances’

Move will trigger byelection in Chester after panel finds he breached Commons’ sexual misconduct policy

www.theguardian.com

 

[ncurd]

Been a bit buried, but Labour MPs can misbehave too. Any other day this would have been higher up the news agenda.

By-election will be an interesting early test for the new PM.

Labour MP Chris Matheson resigns over ‘unwanted sexual advances’

Move will trigger byelection in Chester after panel finds he breached Commons’ sexual misconduct policy

www.theguardian.com

I think the main point is he's no longer an Labour MP who suspended him immediately following the report without hesitation. He should of been suspended pending the report which took 17 months but I suspect that's because it was being investigated on the hush due to HoP policy.

So was Blair.

Both are infinitely better than blue tories... until we invaded Iraq, at least, after which he was just better than blue tories

Conservatives fully supported the invasion of Iraq always forgotten. You only have to look at the achievements of Blair/Brown when listed and the list is long to know the suggestion their anything like the Tories is complete ********. The close you get is One Nation Tories and they ain't anywhere close to power despite being a huge power block.

 

[Saintjay]

So was Blair.

Both are infinitely better than blue tories... until we invaded Iraq, at least, after which he was just better than blue tories

Which is the Labour Party problem. They are doing well now but that is more because of the Tories being terrible. I think it's a big if, but if the Cons did sort themselves out ( i can't see as they are to far gone). In two years the factions within Labour still have a capacity to blow it.
To win votes Labour need to be more Conservative. This is at odds with them being the party of the Unions and workers. Parts of the Labour Party still see Tony Blair as a liar and war criminal who's conduct is as hideous as Borris. I don't recall as many screams for a GE when Brown became PM without one.
In 2019 when Labour started being seen as a student politics middle class city\University town party they f@#ked up. I never thought I'd see Conservative Mp's in Grimsby, Bolsover, Scunthorpe etc.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

so penny declared. is she more likely to take nominations away from rishi or Boris?

 

[Reiser99]

Rishi surely.

 

[Gavin]

It's ironic this fella, who works in the fishing industry, says the UK needs Boris, yet the general consensus is that Boris threw the fishing industry under the Brexit bus.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

so penny declared. is she more likely to take nominations away from rishi or Boris?

Rishi. But Rishi can get 100 votes in a three way race whereas its unclear Boris definitely can (personally I think he can cruise it). I think a third candidate is the only chance for the anti-Boris vote. The question is whether the loonies are so mad and disunited that they will throw in a fourth. For example, did Braverman jump ship to help Boris get a shot back at being PM or did she jump ship out of genuine contempt for Truss (Boris's choice)?

It's a ruddy mess. The UK needs a written constitution and PR voting. I wouldn't entertain giving my vote to a party that doesn't have both of those policies in place, because they'd be part of the problem, not the solution. This is all a bit of a giggle if you arent on the bread line as Boris and Truss are clowns. But if this was an English Trump, Orban or Erdogan then we'd see so much power concentrated in the hands of San anti-democratic person with almost supreme power elected by barely more than a third of the electorate.

 

[General Melchett]

You've got to wonder if they're deliberately trying to unsettle the markets again (with a view to profiting even more) with the push for Boris. They know Rishi is the markets preferred choice.

Boris just can't unite the party and it'll end in tears again. Can Sunak and Mordant work together with some vote lending to ensure Boris doesn't make the final two? That seems to be their best hope but not sure if they have the numbers.

 

[Which Tyler]

Conservatives fully supported the invasion of Iraq always forgotten.

Not forgotten at all - but the tories weren't in government, so it's on Blair.
As is the sexed up dossier that led to the war, which we really can't pin on the tories (not that they wouldn't have done the same, they just didn't)

Parts of the Labour Party still see Tony Blair as a liar and war criminal who's conduct is as hideous as Borris.

Blair is a liar and a war criminal, who's conduct was nowhere near as hideous as Boris, but did lead us into an illegal war

I don't recall as many screams for a GE when Brown became PM without one.

Then one of our memories is faulty - there were plenty of screams (just without the amplification of modern social media), and that despite it being known at the preceeding GE that it was going to be Blair's last, and that it was essentially going to be a straight hand-over to Brown

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I think the main point is he's no longer an Labour MP who suspended him immediately following the report without hesitation. He should of been suspended pending the report which took 17 months but I suspect that's because it was being investigated on the hush due to HoP policy.


Conservatives fully supported the invasion of Iraq always forgotten. You only have to look at the achievements of Blair/Brown when listed and the list is long to know the suggestion their anything like the Tories is complete ********. The close you get is One Nation Tories and they ain't anywhere close to power despite being a huge power block.

In fact, as a % of total MPs for the party, MORE Conservatives supported the invasion than Labour. Not saying Labour are innocent but the Tories pretending they were opposed to Iraq but were outvoted is pure fabrication.

It's ironic this fella, who works in the fishing industry, says the UK needs Boris, yet the general consensus is that Boris threw the fishing industry under the Brexit bus.

Good old uninformed voters, a Trump and Johnson favourite. Johnson could literally slap this person in the face, blame Labour and say only he could make his face feel better and a twat like that would believe it. Completely blinded to reality by the troll ideology.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

so essentially if Boris gets a 100 nominations he'll become PM. I wonder what the deadline to become a conservative member is.

Edit: Answer to my question is you need to be a member for three months.

 

[Which Tyler]

so essentially if Boris gets a 100 nominations he'll become PM. I wonder what the deadline to become a conservative member is.

Edit: Answer to my question is you need to be a member for three months.

But you don't need to be eligible to vote in the UK...


Or be human...


Or actually exist