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A Political Thread pt. 2

So thick Lizzie gets three months redundancy pay for 44 days of service, half of which were taken up with Queen related duties and we the taxpayer have to bloody pay for it.
 
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Only one man for the job at this point...

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Oh, please, he's far too long termist for the Tories - he managed to stay 67 days in the top job.


So thick Lizzie gets three months redundancy pay for 44 days of service, half of which were taken up with Queen related duties and we the taxpayer have to bloody pay for it.
Isn't there an automatic Prime Ministerial pension of £90k or half salary or something irrespective of tenure? If so, she should decline it and ask for it to go to poverty charities or food banks.
 
Isn't there an automatic Prime Ministerial pension of £90k or half salary or something irrespective of tenure? If so, she should decline it and ask for it to go to poverty charities or food banks.
£115k pa for life; brought in by Major, during his "I'm Thatcher's Puppet" phase (Though I've seen plenty of tories claim it was brought in by Blair for the enrichment of Blair, 3 years before he became leader of the opposition, somehow)
 
£115k pa for life; brought in by Major, during his "I'm Thatcher's Puppet" phase (Though I've seen plenty of tories claim it was brought in by Blair for the enrichment of Blair, 3 years before he became leader of the opposition, somehow)
Yeah his enrichment also after 10 years of service PM, 24 years as a MP. And leader of 2.5 parliments. I think it's fair to say even if he did it for own backpocket which he did the time to actually earn his pension.
 
The arithmetic amongst MPs points to one lunatic managing to get over 100 MPs if they can agree to put forward only one candidate (likely Boris). The membership arithmetic is then in favour of the lunatic winning.

I'm not saying he can't win, but I'm not seeing in what world Sunak is favourite here, although he is a shoe in to get 100+ MPs. The fact he predicted this economic trainwreck won't be relevant to the membership, the lunatic candidate will be a clear favourite in my book.
 
The arithmetic amongst MPs points to one lunatic managing to get over 100 MPs if they can agree to put forward only one candidate (likely Boris). The membership arithmetic is then in favour of the lunatic winning.

I'm not saying he can't win, but I'm not seeing in what world Sunak is favourite here, although he is a shoe in to get 100+ MPs. The fact he predicted this economic trainwreck won't be relevant to the membership, the lunatic candidate will be a clear favourite in my book.
The parliamentary party ******* hate Boris by all accounts. His loyalists have come out for him but most people predict he'll struggle beyond them. He probably struggle to get beyond 100. Still I don't want to dismiss it entirely.

But yes the lunatic wins if there are two candidates and we witness the last two premierships all over again. I think if it is a lunatic its Braverman or Banedoch.
 
But yes the lunatic wins if there are two candidates and we witness the last two premierships all over again. I think if it is a lunatic its Braverman or Banedoch.
299/1 and 80/1 respectively.

Sunak favourite at 5/6, followed by Bojo at 7/2 and Mordaunt at 37/10.
 
299/1 and 80/1 respectively.

Sunak favourite at 5/6, followed by Bojo at 7/2 and Mordaunt at 37/10.
Johnson wins if he make the ballot. Rumour of deal between Mordaunt and Sunak. So if their non supporters won't back Boris which those odds are saying 7/5 they won't they need to coalace around someone. Your getting long odds on those people because you don't know who the lunatics will pick yet.
 
The parliamentary party ******* hate Boris by all accounts. His loyalists have come out for him but most people predict he'll struggle beyond them. He probably struggle to get beyond 100. Still I don't want to dismiss it entirely.

But yes the lunatic wins if there are two candidates and we witness the last two premierships all over again. I think if it is a lunatic its Braverman or Banedoch.

One former minister (but backing Rishi, so hardly unbiased) has BJ's support at 40 hard core MPs and only 20 soft MPs, which if in the ball park would still leave him 40 short.

I personally think he's just be teasing and testing the waters of how much support he has. But then realise he's still far too toxic even within his own party and not run.

Doubtful rookies like Braverman and Badenoch would be given a shot this time.

But yes, deal by Rishi and Mourdant's camps combining would make the most sense, with him as PM and her as Chancellor. End of the day Tory MPs will want put this whole shitshow to bed with 1 vote.
 
But yes, deal by Rishi and Mourdant's camps combining would make the most sense, with him as PM and her as Chancellor. End of the day Tory MPs will want put this whole shitshow to bed with 1 vote.

Nah, I reckon they'll leave Hunt in place - big cuts means whoever is the chancellor is career poisoned - and he seems prepared to accept the sh!tstorm - hence ruling himself out early.

Mourdant maybe chasing home or foreign secretary. Big post to put her in pole position to take over after the election blowout whenever that happens.


Hard to disagree with either of below really.

CBI director general Tony Danker says he cannot give a name but tells the programme he has two areas of criteria for who ever the candidate is.

He says the next leader has to agree with Chancellor Jeremy Hunt and they have to understand the economy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-63309400 @20:47


Tim Loughton, a former minister, has been telling BBC Radio 4 he wants the four "big beasts" in the party to form an alliance and agree who should be prime minister.

He says that if former Chancellor Rishi Sunak, Commons leader Penny Mordaunt, Chancellor Jeremy Hunt and Defence Secretary Ben Wallace could agree between them who will stand, there would be no need for a leadership contest and "we can get back to some degree of normality".

Asked if that would be acceptable to right-wing members of the Tory Party, Loughton says people "need to park all those egos" and put aside prejudices about certain candidates.

He says the party and country face a really urgent situation.

"We need to have a united and talented cabinet of grown-ups who come together and get us back on course," he adds.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-63309400 @20:58
 
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Reality is, if you look at the last leadership contest there aren't many names who could definitely get 100. For me Mordaunt holds the key. If she doesn't run the Sunal will win outright as I think too many MPs don't want this to go to the membership and are desperate for a quick transition. If she does run she fractures the vote and then potentially you have no one getting 100.
 

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