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A Political Thread pt. 2

Looks like his days are numbered. Sky reporting that the Govt dropped the amendment because they didn't have enough backbench support to vote against Starmer.

There's now talk of a General Election as a last ditch attempt to get a new mandate and save his own skin. Even if he did scrape a majority he'd be in the same position as Theresa May was in (after her botched attempt to increase her majority) and be a lame duck PM. Fun and games to come.
 
There's now talk of a General Election as a last ditch attempt to get a new mandate and save his own skin.
Why would he do that, when public opinion has shifted so dramatically?
Even if it were a case of placating the backbenchers (you don't need to kick me out, we just won another election!) they will never, in a month of Sundays, get a majority the likes of the one they have now

BoJo calling a GE should be a threat to the Tories, not a positive - a lot of his MPs will lose their seats if there were a GE anytime soon
 
Why would he do that, when public opinion has shifted so dramatically?
Even if it were a case of placating the backbenchers (you don't need to kick me out, we just won another election!) they will never, in a month of Sundays, get a majority the likes of the one they have now

BoJo calling a GE should be a threat to the Tories, not a positive - a lot of his MPs will lose their seats if there were a GE anytime soon

Who knows. Maybe a desperate last ditch attempt to campaign his way out of the hole he's in. Polling data will surely be enough for Tory MPs to oust him if many of them are likely to lose their seats. I imagine the letters to Graham Brady will now start to fly in given that the Met have confirmed they won't issue more news about partygate before the May elections.
 
If a GE was called tomorrow and Tories lost half their majority it would be a good result for Labour. Losing what is it 79/80 seats Judy can't see that happening in one election cycle.
 
If a GE was called tomorrow and Tories lost half their majority it would be a good result for Labour. Losing what is it 79/80 seats Judy can't see that happening in one election cycle.

Any new Tory leader would be under pressure to call a GE sharpish in order to get a mandate and so their majority is bound to get slashed regardless given the baggage they now have. The house of cards could be about to fall.
 
All my French colleagues and friends are tout-sauf-Macron though.. saying he was the worst. But yeah, he'll win

Yeah, I think the French don't like him as a person. Older wife, arrogant even by French standards and very blunt in his delivery of things rub people the wrong way.

By far the best politician they have though and they should really be focusing on making the national rally irrelevant before trying to get rid of him.
 
Debate on motion still on going.

A whole 6 Tory MPs on the Conservative benches.

It's weird because most people don't care about the house in more general terms but this feel like the days the wheels finally fell off and he really won't survive this.
 
Debate on motion still on going.

A whole 6 Tory MPs on the Conservative benches.

It's weird because most people don't care about the house in more general terms but this feel like the days the wheels finally fell off and he really won't survive this.

Yeah today does feel like a turning point.

Boris unsurprisingly calling on his MPs not to draw any conclusions until after the Met have completed their investigation i.e. after the May elections. Desperate stuff.
 
Yeah today does feel like a turning point.

Boris unsurprisingly calling on his MPs not to draw any conclusions until after the Met have completed their investigation i.e. after the May elections. Desperate stuff.
Labour are no longer going to force a vote might just get nodded through.

Have to say they've played a blinder on this motion by wording it so it after the police investigation concludes and Chris Bryant standing down to chair it so a Tory has to, they've literally stopped any reasonable argument against it going ahead. Reminds me of the good old days when the House almost forced a second vote on Brexit.
 


Blackford says "The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom is a liar"
No-one asks him to correct the record or withdraw the remark

One of the few (possibly only) times allowed under Erskine May. Basically you can't have a debate about whether to investigate into whether someone is a liar without someone accusing them of being such.

I'm surprised more people didn't do it less so Blackford was one of them. He did get a knuckle wrapping for Mentioning the Queen again.
 
By comparing defenders of Azovstal ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion ) with defenders of Stalingrad Tractor plant (brigades consisted of workers of this same plant). I understand everything..but it's a weird comparison, speaking politely.
Although I'm surprised you know the details of the Stalingrad Battle , I thought you were only a Gulag expert...


Yeah, I think the French don't like him as a person. Older wife, arrogant even by French standards and very blunt in his delivery of things rub people the wrong way.

By far the best politician they have though and they should really be focusing on making the national rally irrelevant before trying to get rid of him.
Hmm..I've been told by Frenchmen I know that he was actually the worst president they had (all of them voted for Mélenchon). Asked a couple of colleagues today as well, one will finally vote for Macron though. I can't say if he's/he was good or bad, haven't had an opportunity to live in France and appreciate him, unfortunately. But I hope I'll have such an opportunity in the future, regardless of who's the next leader, really want (and am thinking) to move to France :) And I pretty like Brigitte Macron, I'd add
 
By comparing defenders of Azovstal ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion ) with defenders of Stalingrad Tractor plant (brigades consisted of workers of this same plant). I understand everything..but it's a weird comparison, speaking politely.
Although I'm surprised you know the details of the Stalingrad Battle , I thought you were only a Gulag expert...



Hmm..I've been told by Frenchmen I know that he was actually the worst president they had (all of them voted for Mélenchon). Asked a couple of colleagues today as well, one will finally vote for Macron though. I can't say if he's/he was good or bad, haven't had an opportunity to live in France and appreciate him, unfortunately. But I hope I'll have such an opportunity in the future, regardless of who's the next leader, really want (and am thinking) to move to France :) And I pretty like Brigitte Macron, I'd add
Oh dear. Heavy night on the vodka mate?
 
Still not even sure they do. Apparently a suspect has to be named within 15 years, which is May 3rd this year, for a prosecution to occur. Authorities deny the deadline has an impact and that the decision is based on evidence, but it is certainly convenient.

Simple fact is that the Portuguese authorities botched the crime scene at the time and so made it almost impossible to be used as evidence.

The McCanns though have to take some blame as they left a ground floor patio door open. I don't care if it is victim blaming, you know there are bad people in the world, so don't take the risk with your children just to make it more convenient to have a drink.

Also may be controversial but too much time and money has been wasted on this. Children go missing almost every day and get no where near the police time, resources and money spent. It's only because it's so high profile and attracted huge media attention.
 
Still not even sure they do. Apparently a suspect has to be named within 15 years, which is May 3rd this year, for a prosecution to occur. Authorities deny the deadline has an impact and that the decision is based on evidence, but it is certainly convenient.

Simple fact is that the Portuguese authorities botched the crime scene at the time and so made it almost impossible to be used as evidence.

The McCanns though have to take some blame as they left a ground floor patio door open. I don't care if it is victim blaming, you know there are bad people in the world, so don't take the risk with your children just to make it more convenient to have a drink.

Also may be controversial but too much time and money has been wasted on this. Children go missing almost every day and get no where near the police time, resources and money spent. It's only because it's so high profile and attracted huge media attention.
Sad to say but true. I just hope that for Maddie's sake she didn't suffer. But we'll probably never know.
 
I think a line needs to be drawn under this. If Madeline is still alive, she has spent the majority of her life not with her parents and not in England. I don't really see what they could hope to find now that wasn't available over the last 15 years.
 

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