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[2022 Six Nations] Ireland vs Scotland (19/03/22)

The 2020 game you really should have won, Hogg dropping it over the line. It's a strange one too, Scotland just rarely seek to get up for it despite a fairly heated rivalry at club level too.

I'm always confident going into a Scotland game but aware that it'll be an awful one to lose and that the loss is probably overdue.
You may be right, my memory was more that Hogg dropping it was symptomatic of us generally looking good without actually achieving much.

Is it heated with both clubs? I know Glasgow/Murray had a run in, and there's the general desire to beat the favourites but I've never been that aware of much rivalry from fans. Don't live there anymore though so fairly distant from it all.
 
I think Conor Murray might start. For the first time in recent memory I felt he had his game face on when he took the pitch at Twickenham. Don't know if it was the hostile crowd or the disappointment of being left out of the squad altogether recently but something brought him to life. It's about time too. This is pub talk so take it with a pinch of salt but i've long suspected he doesn't really enjoy his rugby anymore. Doesn't have the bite for it. His brilliance his undeniable when he gets it right though.

Watch the lead up to Bealhams try. The lineout comes down, Murray throws his eyes to Lowe and watches George - he knows he's going to commit and when he does it'll open a gap. As soon as George does the necessary Murray runs at the space, engages the covering defender and pops the pass to Lowe. The try is as good as scored. He has the picture in his head before everyone else for me and it's brilliant. If he gets back to doing that on a regular basis we might have two geriatric half backs leading us to the world cup.

I'm not an Ulsterman but i'd love to see a chunk of their contingent get a chance against Scotland. Balacoune, Timoney, Lowry, even Treadwell are deserving on club form.

I'd go with

Kilcoyne (we really need another backup loosehead)
Sheehan
Furlong
Henderson
Beirne
Doris
Timoney (time to phase out POM)
Conan
Murray
Sexton
Lowe
Aki
Ringrose
Balacoune
Lowry

Give some of the lads you want as part of your WC squad time against Tier 1 countries and not just token appearances against Italy. We have second wrapped up and England are not going to beat France. No disrespect to Scotland either but I question their ability to turn us over at home. Even though they got close against France I don't think they can be relied upon to put their best foot forward this week.

Sexton has to play if we're going to experiment a little though. It falls apart with Carbery at the helm.
 
I think Conor Murray might start. For the first time in recent memory I felt he had his game face on when he took the pitch at Twickenham. Don't know if it was the hostile crowd or the disappointment of being left out of the squad altogether recently but something brought him to life. It's about time too. This is pub talk so take it with a pinch of salt but i've long suspected he doesn't really enjoy his rugby anymore. Doesn't have the bite for it. His brilliance his undeniable when he gets it right though.

Watch the lead up to Bealhams try. The lineout comes down, Murray throws his eyes to Lowe and watches George - he knows he's going to commit and when he does it'll open a gap. As soon as George does the necessary Murray runs at the space, engages the covering defender and pops the pass to Lowe. The try is as good as scored. He has the picture in his head before everyone else for me and it's brilliant. If he gets back to doing that on a regular basis we might have two geriatric half backs leading us to the world cup.

I'm not an Ulsterman but i'd love to see a chunk of their contingent get a chance against Scotland. Balacoune, Timoney, Lowry, even Treadwell are deserving on club form.

I'd go with

Kilcoyne (we really need another backup loosehead)
Sheehan
Furlong
Henderson
Beirne
Doris
Timoney (time to phase out POM)
Conan
Murray
Sexton
Lowe
Aki
Ringrose
Balacoune
Lowry

Give some of the lads you want as part of your WC squad time against Tier 1 countries and not just token appearances against Italy. We have second wrapped up and England are not going to beat France. No disrespect to Scotland either but I question their ability to turn us over at home. Even though they got close against France I don't think they can be relied upon to put their best foot forward this week.

Sexton has to play if we're going to experiment a little though. It falls apart with Carbery at the helm.
I don't think it'll be anything hit Farrell's full strength XV but I agree with most of that. A stress test if we lose VdF and Keenan who have played a hell of a lot of minutes for us in the past 18 months is worthwhile.

Although I thought JGP was excellent so would refrain from starting Murray. If players had have caught his perfectly fine passes we'd have had a far easier Saturday.
 
Watched the match again, from the sofa this time rather than from behind it, and we weren't half as bad as I thought at the time. What really struck me was how brilliantly England responded to the loss of Ewell and they rode that wave of emotion until about the 65th minute, when their superhuman effort inevitably took its toll, and from then on Ireland were superb and finally got a few decisions from the ref. What really struck me was that most of the Irish mistakes happened after they'd breached the English defence rather happening in front of it, which lessened Englands opportunity to counter.

Some of our handling and lines of running were sublime, but too often we tried to force the final pass, when going to ground and getting a quick recycle would have probably got us over the line. In contrast England never once looked like doing anything creative, and relied on a gameplan that was reminiscent of some of our darkest days of moral victories. Without Reynals strange interpretation of scrum laws they would have struggled to get any impetus, and the worry for them next week must be that France will have a full reel of scrum highlights to bring to their meeting with the ref during the week, and they will get nothing like the leeway they got on Saturday. Their defence and bloodymindedness was hugely admirable but it's not going to win them very much unless they can find some sort of creativity in their backline. And tbh I'm not sure Smith is the messiah that they think he is.

I thought our back three individually and collectively were magnificent, with Keenan maturing into possibly the best 15 in the tournament, with Conway making a mockery of his wilderness years under Joe, and Lowe looking like a child at an adventure park every time he gets near the ball. Sheehan, despite the issues at the scrum, was superb once again, as were Doris and VdF. I think the loss of Ryan can't be overstated, because he's become the workhorse of that pack, and at the moment we don't have any obvious replacement, which is a worry.

So, after watching it again, I think there are more reasons to be positive than negative about the performance, and importantly the problems with the scrum are fixable, especially if the ref has an even basic knowledge of the laws. With all the talk about our settled and cohesive side it important to remember were also a side transitioning from a very rigid gameplan to a much more unstructured style of play, and actually doing it very well for the most part, so I'm a lot more optimistic after the second viewing, and a bit less apprehensive about us messing up on Saturday.
 
nd tbh I'm not sure Smith is the messiah that they think he is.
Not yet but he could be. Still very raw, but all he needs is:

- Experience

- A scrum half who's neither raw nor slow

- A pack that delivers fast front foot ball

- A back line with a bit of bosh

- A 12 whose best position is 12, not 13 or 10

- A couple of wingers who the opposition might actually worry about

- A coach that allows him freedom

- A decent haircut

- Most importantly, a wraparound move

Apart from those he's fine.

Sorry for thread hijack.
 
Not yet but he could be. Still very raw, but all he needs is:

- Experience

- A scrum half who's neither raw nor slow

- A pack that delivers fast front foot ball

- A back line with a bit of bosh

- A 12 whose best position is 12, not 13 or 10

- A couple of wingers who the opposition might actually worry about

- A coach that allows him freedom

- A decent haircut

- Most importantly, a wraparound move

Apart from those he's fine.

Sorry for thread hijack.
I did find it funny that after all the talk the Sexton loop won us the game 50 seconds in.
 
Not yet but he could be. Still very raw, but all he needs is:

- Experience

- A scrum half who's neither raw nor slow

- A pack that delivers fast front foot ball

- A back line with a bit of bosh

- A 12 whose best position is 12, not 13 or 10

- A couple of wingers who the opposition might actually worry about

- A coach that allows him freedom

- A decent haircut

- Most importantly, a wraparound move

Apart from those he's fine.

Sorry for thread hijack.

If you can sort that lot out I might be able to a job for you. Except for the haircut obviously.
 
If you can sort that lot out I might be able to a job for you. Except for the haircut obviously.

Talking of haircuts what is up with James Lowe showcasing his receding hairline? It looked like he'd been prep'd for a hair transplant but then realised he had a game of rugby to play and so had to run out of the operating theatre.
 
Keenan; Conway, Ringrose, Aki, Lowe; Sexton (capt), Gibson-Park; Healy, Sheehan, Furlong, Beirne, Henderson, Doris, van der Flier, Conan. Replacements: Herring, Kilcoyne, Bealham, Treadwell, O'Mahony, Murray, Carbery, Henshaw.

Thornley the clairvoyant's team
 
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Well that's Ireland won by 30.

Glad I'm going over now!!!
Gray is a welcome addition, I hope Zander sorts himself out discipline wise.

Big call on Kinghorn, he isn't my favourite 10 but happy to see Finn being benched he needs a bit of pressure put on him to perform (he did work harder in Rome after the public call out on the Beeb round up show).

I just want to see some of the cohesiveness Scotland had last year come back...
 
Gray is a welcome addition, I hope Zander sorts himself out discipline wise.

Big call on Kinghorn, he isn't my favourite 10 but happy to see Finn being benched he needs a bit of pressure put on him to perform (he did work harder in Rome after the public call out on the Beeb round up show).

I just want to see some of the cohesiveness Scotland had last year come back...
I'd have been content with Hastings at 10 and Kinghorn at 15, to be honest.
 
Think we'll get our front five dominance which we've been missing back for this even without Ryan.
You will win at a canter. Will be my first time at the Aviva so I'm thinking any margin under 30 points would be something to take away.

Such an uninspiring backline for Scotland.
 
You will win at a canter. Will be my first time at the Aviva so I'm thinking any margin under 30 points would be something to take away.

Such an uninspiring backline for Scotland.
Enjoy, also going and excited! Bath Avenue or Haddington rd (Bar 51 or Beggars bush) are great spots for a beer beforehand. Searsons too if you're up for the most crammed spot in Dublin.

30 points would be mental, I'll be extremely happy with a two score game to be honest. Expecting some tries at least.
 
Enjoy, also going and excited! Bath Avenue or Haddington rd (Bar 51 or Beggars bush) are great spots for a beer beforehand. Searsons too if you're up for the most crammed spot in Dublin.

30 points would be mental, I'll be extremely happy with a two score game to be honest. Expecting some tries at least.
Cheers, lad. Have a native there to show me the ropes so hopefully won't get burnt by some of the higher end pint prices!
 

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