[2019 Six Nations] France vs Scotland (23/02/2019)

TommiG88 · Feb 20, 2019

The Oggmonster said:
I'm getting confused now. The incident in your original post was the EJ train one was it not? At least that it what I referred to in my response and you didn't correct me. I then argued that none of the players or coaches would have endorsed those idiots in that particular incident and you go off on a tangent and bring up different incidents that weren't being part of the original discussion. Good Lord. I don't condone the boo'ing but with regard to the players, the two at the centre of it were Owen Farrell and Ryan Wilson - two hot headed Englishmen. Wilson was born in Aldershot and went to school in Farnham. If you want to dig up some new incidents then go ahead but I'm done on this particular one and would rather focus on Saturday's game.

Just checked, same school as Ugo Monye and King Jonny.

General Melchett · Feb 20, 2019

TommiG88 said:
Just checked, same school as Ugo Monye and King Jonny.

Shame they didn't have Scottish Grannys.

Every Time Ref · Feb 20, 2019

I can never decide whether to support Scotland or not because although I do wish them success on a theoretical level, I can't escape the conclusion that very few Scottish fans would do England the same courtesy!

Overall I always have (begrudgingly) shouted for Scotland when it's come down to it because I do believe the 6N benefits from a strong Scotland. But I'd right now actually I'd say the tournament needs a strong France much more urgently - so think I'm going to shout for France.

Allez les Bleus!

Mr Ruggleby · Feb 20, 2019

Every Time Ref said:
I can never decide whether to support Scotland or not because although I do wish them success on a theoretical level, I can't escape the conclusion that very few Scottish fans would do England the same courtesy!

Overall I always have (begrudgingly) shouted for Scotland when it's come down to it because I do believe the 6N benefits from a strong Scotland. But I'd right now actually I'd say the tournament needs a strong France much more urgently - so think I'm going to shout for France.

Allez les Bleus!

I hope it is a 0-0 draw with 200 line breaks and 1 scrum. Both fan bases and sets of players hate the English and there is no better response to hatred than condescending verbal pats on the back for underwhelming performances.

MikeTheNative · Feb 20, 2019

With Scotland you just have to sit back and enjoy the rugby that the play..................... or the implosion that often happens.

General Melchett · Feb 20, 2019

Danny Care saying "We are hated in Cardiff". I cant keep track of who hates who now. Can't we all just get along. I personally don't mind a hostile atmosphere from the home fans. It adds to the spectacle IMO and makes an away win more special. It is rugby after all and not lawn bowls.

Leonormous Boozer · Feb 20, 2019

I hate the English...

Telling us how much we hate them.

Every Time Ref · Feb 21, 2019

The Alpha Bro said:
I hate the English...

Telling us how much we hate them.

I love you man

Leonormous Boozer · Feb 21, 2019

Every Time Ref said:
I love you man

We're not.... built.... to hate.

*Sheds a single tear*

MikeTheNative · Feb 21, 2019

Scotland: Blair Kinghorn (Edinburgh), Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors), Nick Grigg (Glasgow Warriors), Sam Johnson (Glasgow Warriors), Sean Maitland (Saracens), Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors), Greig Laidlaw (Clermont Auvergne - captain); Allan Dell (Edinburgh), Stuart McInally (Edinburgh - vice-captain), Simon Berghan (Edinburgh), Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh), Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors), Magnus Bradbury (Edinburgh), Jamie Ritchie (Edinburgh), Josh Strauss (Sale Sharks).

Replacements: Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors), Alex Allan (Glasgow Warriors), Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors), Ben Toolis (Edinburgh), Gary Graham (Newcastle), Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors), Adam Hastings (Glasgow Warriors), Darcy Graham (Edinburgh).

Still looks a decent squad however the problem is you loose World Class players in Russell, Hogg, arguably Jones and replace them with players who while are good are not at the level of the players they are replacing.

Every Time Ref · Feb 21, 2019

The Alpha Bro said:
We're not.... built.... to hate.

*Sheds a single tear*

*hands you a potato and a pint of Guinness*

Let's never stereotype each other again!

Bruce_ma gooshvili · Feb 21, 2019

I actually like the Scottish pack, they shouldn't get dominated. Bradbury was ferocious last weekend and I look forward to see him and young homegrown teammate Ritchie together in the backrow.

It is hard to disagree too much with Townsends selections in the backs given the limitations (I didn't realise George Horne was also injured) - but personally I wouldn't put any of those backs in a fully fit Italian XV, except possibly Seymour & Johnson given Italy's struggles in those positions. Townsend got a lot of these backs to perform well for Glasgow, so maybe he can coax something special out of them. But if France dont throw in the towel I'll go for:

France by 15 (Scotland scoring less than 13 points)

Ragey Erasmus · Feb 21, 2019

Just looked out of interest, apparently Brunels win rate with France is only 23%. For comparison O'Shea has 20% with Italy. That is shocking.

General Melchett · Feb 22, 2019

ragerancher said:
Just looked out of interest, apparently Brunels win rate with France is only 23%. For comparison O'Shea has 20% with Italy. That is shocking.

France with O'Shea in charge would be a very different animal. If this slump continues then I can imagine them going for him, Cotter or possibly Gatland after the WC.

Every Time Ref · Feb 22, 2019

ragerancher said:
Just looked out of interest, apparently Brunels win rate with France is only 23%. For comparison O'Shea has 20% with Italy. That is shocking.

Are they playing comparable teams though?

It's terrible either way mind

Leonormous Boozer · Feb 22, 2019

Every Time Ref said:
Are they playing comparable teams though?

It's terrible either way mind

Brunel's NZ tour would skew it a wee bit.

MikeTheNative · Feb 22, 2019

Italy beat Japan and Georgia last year then in 2017 only beat Fiji. Last time they beat someone from the usual top nations is SA in 2016.

Leonormous Boozer · Feb 22, 2019

It should be noted that apart from NZ, France have more players I'd nick to play for Ireland than any other country so it is fairly shocking!

MikeTheNative · Feb 22, 2019

The Alpha Bro said:
It should be noted that apart from NZ, France have more players I'd nick to play for Ireland than any other country so it is fairly shocking!

On paper they are a very talented team. However come game time they play like a 2nd team that's only met each other 20 minutes before.

FrenchFan · Feb 22, 2019

The Oggmonster said:
France with O'Shea in charge would be a very different animal. If this slump continues then I can imagine them going for him, Cotter or possibly Gatland after the WC.

I'd give the job to POC. Paul knows.

Paul has a front row seat on all things French rugby now that he lives in the biggest non-rugby city in this country and works with an all English-speaking staff at Stade Francais.
Paul has identified the mystery behind le terrible malaise in French rugger. In his infinite wisdom Paul thinks that this sorry state of affair is all down to the Top 14 biggest clubs not being able to afford a hem....nutritionist! Mystery solved!
His club has the biggest budget with a paltry 40M euros. Their owner is a Swiss billionaire. But they 'can't afford' a nutritionist. Money must be veryvery tight indeed...

https://www.independent.ie/sport/ru...-french-rugby-has-fallen-behind-37836702.html

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