[2015 Six Nations] England vs France (Round 5)

[Feicarsinn]

Having read none of this thread I must say congrats to England. You played a wonderful style of rugby with the players to execute. It's a shame that the northern hemisphere sides don't approach every game with such abandon, because based on what we saw today we're good to match anyone down south in terms of skill and attacking play.

Hard luck boys, still as solid team.

 

[Hibbyhanky]

Watching the rugby again you watch it tell me I am wrong all the games today where good at leased I will say if scotland get a wrong decision go Scotland's way as it happens

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Think we can put all six teams together and we still going to win World Cup

Scotland will be lucky to get A win in the world cup, let alone win the world cup.

 

[Hibbyhanky]

Super xv is a higher stander of rugby than the rugby we watch today people think is good rugby but it's more to do with mistakes that are made that let the other team score

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England will win it lol no chance

 

[iINDOMINUSxx]

Scotland will be lucky to get A win in the world cup, let alone win the world cup.

Your definitely saying that to annoy us aren't you ?

 

[smartcooky]

Duude!

Please tell me how you think England and France will do at the WC based on that match.

I can't say, because there is no way on God's green earth that either England or France will play that kind of game against NZ, SAF or AUS; if they do, they will most certainly get a botty-smacking.

This game was forced on England because to win the 6N they had to beat France by a at least a 26 point margin. There is no way they were going to do that without scoring tries; winning 27-0 with nine penalty goals by George Ford was never going to happen. There is also no way they would have played the way they did if all they had to do was win. The consequence of playing an open style of rugby is that you risk giving up tries, especially if playing that way is not what you are used to doing.

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Actually, I saw a lot of parallels between this match and the fourth Cricket World Cup quarter final last night. New Zealand scored 393-6 off their 50 overs, and the Windies came in and set about smashing the ball to all corners of the Caketin. While they reached 200 in only 25 overs it came at a cost of 7 wickets. The commentators burbled on and on about how NZ would now be worried if the Windies had been only 2 down, but they missed the important point; they were able to score that fast only by taking risks, and they lost wickets taking those risks.

England scored 55 points, but it was risky rugby, and as a consequence, they conceded five tries.

 

[msf]

Haha, you've obviously never watched super rugby. Now stop being a jealous Scot, and just admit that you are in the second tier of European nations, so if you're right about the southern hemisphere that would put your in the third tier in the world game.

 

[iINDOMINUSxx]

Haha, you've obviously never watched super rugby. Now stop being a jealous Scot, and just admit that you are in the second tier of European nations, so if you're right about the southern hemisphere that would put your in the third tier in the world game.

yeah we are a tier 2 nation which nearly beat the all blacks ? and could have won 4 out off 5 games this year.

 

[msf]

Some of these NZ posters have short memories...England played this kind of game against the All Blacks last June, and lost the second test by one point. This was an England without Youngs, Ford and Joseph, our 3 best attacking players. I'm not saying that England will win the WC playing like this, but the southern hemisphere teams won't thrash us - it will be a similar game to the France game, but with England most likely on the losing side.

 

[smartcooky]

England where in the game with bad French kicking and a ref with a white top with a rose on it two try's at the end of first 40 England got a pen for diving in but when the French defender went to ground he was not allowed back to his feet a english attacker dived on him ref blow pen for England then a try other try where a French defender pulled the ball back the ball had been mocked on already that's why it was on the ground later in the game a english player tripped kick French player got a yellow card right in front of the ref as clear as day no way he did not see what happens clear sending off still it was the camra ref that had to bring it up the rif in this game should never ref again did he take a bung

Your eejit posts would be easier to understand if you learned how to use these "." ","

 

[msf]

Tier 3 nation, about the same level as Italy, who you lost to.

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

I can't say, because there is no way on God's green earth that either England or France will play that kind of game against NZ, SAF or AUS; if they do, they will most certainly get a botty-smacking.

This game was forced on England because to win the 6N they had to beat France by a at least a 26 point margin. There is no way they were going to do that without scoring tries; winning 28-0 with nine penalty goals by George Ford was never going to happen. There is also no way they would have played the way they did if all they had to do was win. The consequence of playing an open style of rugby is that you risk giving up tries, especially if playing that way is not what you are used to doing.

[off topic]
Actually, I saw a lot of parallels between this match and the fourth Cricket World Cup quarter final last night. New Zealand scored 393-6 off their 50 overs, and the Windies came in and set about smashing the ball to all corners of the Caketin. While they reached 200 in only 25 overs it came at a cost of 7 wickets. The commentators burbled on and on about how NZ would now be worried if the Windies had been only 2 down, but they missed the important point; they were able to score that fast only by taking risks, and they lost wickets taking those risks.

England scored 55 points, but it was risky rugby, and as a consequence, they conceded five tries.

Psssst, check your times-tables dude!

I don't fully agree that England conceded five tries because of how we were trying to play. Our defence today was fully consonant with how its been the whole tournament - awful (wales game aside)

France scored from some poor errors from us. The first two tries were obvious examples but what I can't get out of my mind is the Ford kick out on the full and the Kieran Brookes offside. Gave France the territory to score and ultimately cost us.

 

[Feicarsinn]

I can't say, because there is no way on God's green earth that either England or France will play that kind of game against NZ, SAF or AUS; if they do, they will most certainly get a botty-smacking.

This game was forced on England because to win the 6N they had to beat France by a at least a 26 point margin. There is no way they were going to do that without scoring tries; winning 28-0 with nine penalty goals by George Ford was never going to happen. There is also no way they would have played the way they did if all they had to do was win. The consequence of playing an open style of rugby is that you risk giving up tries, especially if playing that way is not what you are used to doing.

[off topic]
Actually, I saw a lot of parallels between this match and the fourth Cricket World Cup quarter final last night. New Zealand scored 393-6 off their 50 overs, and the Windies came in and set about smashing the ball to all corners of the Caketin. While they reached 200 in only 25 overs it came at a cost of 7 wickets. The commentators burbled on and on about how NZ would now be worried if the Windies had been only 2 down, but they missed the important point; they were able to score that fast only by taking risks, and they lost wickets taking those risks.

England scored 55 points, but it was risky rugby, and as a consequence, they conceded five tries.

It's hard to tell. No side will play like that in the knockout round of the world cup. The southern hemisphere sides are perhaps more used to flinging the ball around, but the northern sides showed today that they could do it. But if it's a tight game in a world cup semi final I'd expect so see conservative rugby from both sides, regardless of what hemisphere they're from.

 

[goodNumber10]

England where in the game with bad French kicking and a ref with a white top with a rose on it two try's at the end of first 40 England got a pen for diving in but when the French defender went to ground he was not allowed back to his feet a english attacker dived on him ref blow pen for England then a try other try where a French defender pulled the ball back the ball had been mocked on already that's why it was on the ground later in the game a english player tripped kick French player got a yellow card right in front of the ref as clear as day no way he did not see what happens clear sending off still it was the camra ref that had to bring it up the rif in this game should never ref again did he take a bung

 

[iINDOMINUSxx]

Tier 3 nation, about the same level as Italy, who you lost to.

A tier 3 nation nearly beating the all blacks ?, never heard that before.

 

[msf]

You almost beat the all blacks 2nd team - the fact that you didn't shows the level of respect they have for you and your position in the world game.

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Anyway, I would have thought you would have learnt to be gracious losers by now, but you obviously haven't, so I'll just say this: wooden spoon!

 

[corny]

What a great game to end the 6N's.

Glad France showed up and PSA can get his selection calls right and settle on the right side they'll be a threat to all in the WC.

For England, superb effort and it really shouldn't be seen as a failed campaign. Younger players should learn a lot.

 

[iINDOMINUSxx]

You almost beat the all blacks 2nd team - the fact that you didn't shows the level of respect they have for you and your position in the world game.

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Anyway, I would have thought you would have learnt to be gracious losers by now, but you obviously haven't, so I'll just say this: wooden spoon!

An all black second team with Dan Carter, Richie McCaw, Ben Smith and Malakai Fekitoa ? that is some second team and you don't have to say that i know were losing and i know were not in a good position atm. But we are not a tier 2 nation or tier 3 nation with the players we have.

 

[goodNumber10]

You almost beat the all blacks 2nd team - the fact that you didn't shows the level of respect they have for you and your position in the world game.

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Anyway, I would have thought you would have learnt to be gracious losers by now, but you obviously haven't, so I'll just say this: wooden spoon!

My facebook stream is full of Scottish people berating England for being arrogant pr*cks and Robshaw bleating at the ref and "apparanely" slapping Owens hand away at the final whistle (he didn't).

Very poor.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

A tier 3 nation nearly beating the all blacks ?, never heard that before.

You're putting way too much into that "nearly" considering you did actually lose (by more than 7, compared to England's 3) and just got white washed in the 6N including losing to Italy at home.
Anyway, no one said you're tier 2, they said 2nd tier of Europe sides, which I'd agree with.
Top tier of England, Ireland, Wales, France
Second of Italy, Scotland, Georgia

It's hard to tell. No side will play like that in the knockout round of the world cup. The southern hemisphere sides are perhaps more used to flinging the ball around, but the northern sides showed today that they could do it. But if it's a tight game in a world cup semi final I'd expect so see conservative rugby from both sides, regardless of what hemisphere they're from.

2011 RWC Final - All Blacks vs "French Flair".

Dour.