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[2014 TRC] South Africa v New Zealand in Johannesburg (04/10/2014)

South Africa is a killing ground for the Boks, they slaughter teams down there and they have done for decades and decades.
The stories of what might have been abound from players and teams all over the world and they go back into previous generations.
This All Black team is tired and they have nothing left to prove, they will play this game on pride alone and that might not be enough in the rarefied air of the high veldt. A hugely successful hunting ground for the Boks, it's going to take a Herculean effort for the AB's to get up for this game away from home.
I am deeply concerned to the point where I won't be putting money on the result, waaaaay too tight to call.
All the Boks need is a good start and then look out.
Chikwa's right, if the AB's show up with anything less than total commitment then they will lose this game.
The unbroken run will come crashing down and all the joy and positivity of the year so far will carry a slight taint.
 
Don't feel all that confident about this game. Will be thrilled if we win it.
 
South Africa is a killing ground for the Boks, they slaughter teams down there and they have done for decades and decades.
The stories of what might have been abound from players and teams all over the world and they go back into previous generations.
This All Black team is tired and they have nothing left to prove, they will play this game on pride alone and that might not be enough in the rarefied air of the high veldt. A hugely successful hunting ground for the Boks, it's going to take a Herculean effort for the AB's to get up for this game away from home.
I am deeply concerned to the point where I won't be putting money on the result, waaaaay too tight to call.
All the Boks need is a good start and then look out.
Chikwa's right, if the AB's show up with anything less than total commitment then they will lose this game.
The unbroken run will come crashing down and all the joy and positivity of the year so far will carry a slight taint.

I mean...let's not get too carried away. We have lost in South Africa since 2011 when we fielded a weak side against them in the Tri Nations. Before that we won twice there in 2010. Obviously it will be a close test and South Africa may well win, but I'm not so sure the legacy of 'impossible at home' really carries that much weight when most of the squad hasn't yet lost in South Africa.

Putting my neck on the line (and I hope it isn't too arrogant to do so), I predict an All Black win of around 10ish. For me it feels South Africa have regressed since the June series. The pack put in a physical performance against Australia, and they've certainly decided physicality is the way they want to play through their selections - but I don't think it will be enough. Despite the love for Pollard (who I am a fan of) I don't believe the South African back-line has been all that inventive in putting players into gaps and spaces this series. I think HM will just try and go for pick and goes, one off forward runners and crashing through the centers. Every lineout within 35m will be a drive, and ever kick from the 22 will be nearly dead centre. I could be very wrong, but I doubt it. No Retallick is a very big blow for us and I think it will really help South Africa out, but overall I'm not sure how they are going to win without trying something new.
 
I mean...let's not get too carried away. We have lost in South Africa since 2011 when we fielded a weak side against them in the Tri Nations. Before that we won twice there in 2010. Obviously it will be a close test and South Africa may well win, but I'm not so sure the legacy of 'impossible at home' really carries that much weight when most of the squad hasn't yet lost in South Africa.

Putting my neck on the line (and I hope it isn't too arrogant to do so), I predict an All Black win of around 10ish. For me it feels South Africa have regressed since the June series. The pack put in a physical performance against Australia, and they've certainly decided physicality is the way they want to play through their selections - but I don't think it will be enough. Despite the love for Pollard (who I am a fan of) I don't believe the South African back-line has been all that inventive in putting players into gaps and spaces this series. I think HM will just try and go for pick and goes, one off forward runners and crashing through the centers. Every lineout within 35m will be a drive, and ever kick from the 22 will be nearly dead centre. I could be very wrong, but I doubt it. No Retallick is a very big blow for us and I think it will really help South Africa out, but overall I'm not sure how they are going to win without trying something new.

In my entire life I don't think I've seen a South African backline being inventive and putting players in gaps ;) I do however believe that they can win without doing this. They are at their best IMO when they put the opposition under immense pressure and force them into mistakes. If they target us at lineout time (Mealamu's throwing doesn't bring me confidence, and Thrush isn't Retallick), and pressurize our inside backs (with both Barrett and Fekitoa in only their 2nd test starts in these positions - in fact only Fekitoa's 2nd start in this position in professional rugby!), I think they have a strong chance of winning.

In saying that I do largely agree with your sentiment. The AB's shouldn't be unduly intimidated at the thought of playing in South Africa - we haven't lost there with a full strength side in 5 years!
 
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I will give this an hour before the big match starts in Beziers!!!

Come on the All Blacks although you do not need my support as you are destined to win by 10+!!!
 
Who was the black lad who met the players at the start? He seemed to live some of the South African ones.
 
Haka is a challenge, love the crowd getting into it!

Exactly!!! If they want to do it fine but opposition should challenge as they want. But enough about that.... Back to the game!!!
 

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