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[2014 Mid-Year Test] Argentina vs. Ireland 07/06/14

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Argentina vs. Ireland 07/06/14, 15:40 ART, Estadio Centenario, Resistencia, Argentina

Referee: Glen Jackson (New Zealand)

The Pumas will attempt to start 2014 on a better note when they take on Ireland at home this June. The game is being held in Chaco Province which is great to see as the Argentines are doing a very good job of spreading their home tests out to various cities and regions.

Ireland will look to continue their Six Nations championship form on the road, and beat what's been somewhat a bogeyman for them over the last few years. This one could go either way really, Ireland look much better on form but the home advantage could be a big factor and the Pumas can always tighten a game up with some hard physical play and a healthy knowledge of the "darker arts". As with all these June tests squad depth and selections will play a role and we can only speculate on the choices at this point.

Lineups: TBA
 
This thread isn't necessary, bud. We'll receive a beating. But it will be interesting to see our kids in their fire's baptism at the international level

:lol:
 
"beat what's been somewhat a bogeyman for them over the last few years."

Not really, last 3 results were 46-24, 29-9 and 17-3 to Ireland..


 
I dunno Im still pretty livid about that spear tackle on BO'D.......
 
Not sure if you've heard theres this Johnny Wilkinson bloke and he can kick the really good
 
I'd say the guys who were rested are livid, a holiday in a warmer clime along with a free eye exam. What's not to like?
 
Maybe you meant "bunch", right?

:p

Conrad. I understand there's a language barrier, but wouldn't common sense guide you that if some user puts quotation marks around a word, he means some kind of tongue-in-cheek effect, maybe something phonetic ?...

anyways: I sure hope Argentina starts finding solutions for those summer tests...the way things are going, sending Puma C squads, it's going to decimate their cumulative records against other nations. To think they put 40 on France just 4 summers ago; they've come a long way. Having sides casually come over to put 50 on them and then go back home with inflated confidence does nobody any good...and it's degrading, so far. The 2012 side still had some decency in them, they beat Italy and beat France once. But the side last year against England was just ridiculous..
 
John Plumtree is leaving his position with Ireland to return to NZ. Canes job maybe?
 
Conrad. I understand there's a language barrier, but wouldn't common sense guide you that if some user puts quotation marks around a word, he means some kind of tongue-in-cheek effect, maybe something phonetic ?...

anyways: I sure hope Argentina starts finding solutions for those summer tests...the way things are going, sending Puma C squads, it's going to decimate their cumulative records against other nations. To think they put 40 on France just 4 summers ago; they've come a long way. Having sides casually come over to put 50 on them and then go back home with inflated confidence does nobody any good...and it's degrading, so far. The 2012 side still had some decency in them, they beat Italy and beat France once. But the side last year against England was just ridiculous..

Right now, the concern of UAR and Argentine rugby is the next WC and our franchise in Super Rugby 2016. For that we need to develop players. That is, our Tier 2 or 3 players turning to Tier 1 players.

Many things conspire against it, we have lost many good players who have retired. Now we have less Tier 1 players in Europe, for example: after the third place finish in 2007, the French made more rigorous requirements for hiring Argie players. Now French employ few Argie players and many SANZAR's players.

We have a group of 50-60 young players, inexperienced at international level but with much skill and great future. Many of them will be on the next WC and on our Super Rugby franchise, then we have to give international experience to them.

We are in the process of developing players. If we are playing with our best 15 players always, then our kids will never get international experience and when players like Fernandez Lobbe or Juan Martin Hernandez retire, we'll have a lot of kids without international experience.

This process is important because it's something that never made the Argentine rugby, so that the Pumas after WC 2007 wasn't successful because always played a group of 25 players, the betters players. And then the children reached the international level with little experience. Now we have more players, our starting XV is weaker, it's true, but we have a wider group of players, if the UAR make the right decisions, we'll have an interesting participation in the Super Rugby 2016.

The objectives of the UAR: Next WC and Super Rugby 2016, everything else will be experiments to try to get the best way to those 2 competitions. We don't have players or money to achieve success this year, we are in a process of transition, looking to the future. We must make the right decisions for a good participation in the next WC and Super Rugby 2016.
 
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To add to that Moore and Earls have been ruled out and Reid is now going.

Balls, to all of it.
 
John Plumtree is leaving his position with Ireland to return to NZ. Canes job maybe?

To add to that Moore and Earls have been ruled out and Reid is now going.

Balls, to all of it.

Well that's a lot of bad news all at once. Pretty ****** to see Plumtree go, he's done some good work with us and finding a decent replacement won't be too easy. If it's for the head coach position with the 'Canes I understand but if it's for an assistant role that would be prety annoying.

Moore being injured is bad for both him and Ross so that's ****ing ****. Ah You has been called upand has been good but still a project player and not really ideal. I'm actually quite happy for Reid, he's had a great season and the likely open games should suit him if he plays. Feel sorry for Earls though, his time with Schmidt has been very low and that could count against him as we get closer to the WC.
 
Noel Reid...........
Ffs.
Who would you take ahead of him? Munster have nobody, Ulster have greenhorn Stuart McCloskey and Connacht have Eoin Griffin. That's all that's remaining. Reid showed great form this season. I don't think he'll get a cap but he's next up in terms of centre cover.

Rodney Ah You has also been called up. Again it's a case of needs must with Martin Moore, Declan Fitzpatrick and Stephen Archer all injured. Ricky Lutton, Jamie Hagan and John Andress were the only other options unless Tony Buckley were to make a return.
 
Noel Reid has been....... Better but I don't think he will ever be a legit International quality player. If he can't push for starts in a centre partnership next year I'd worry. It really says how weak we are in the centre that we have to bring him.
 
Noel Reid has been....... Better but I don't think he will ever be a legit International quality player. If he can't push for starts in a centre partnership next year I'd worry. It really says how weak we are in the centre that we have to bring him.
By the time the World Cup rolls around, Stuart Olding, Jared Payne, Robbie Henshaw and Gordon D'arcy should all be back in contention. Who knows, maybe even Munster will provide a centre at some point!
 
Noel Reid has been....... Better but I don't think he will ever be a legit International quality player. If he can't push for starts in a centre partnership next year I'd worry. It really says how weak we are in the centre that we have to bring him.

Better is putting it mildly.

D'arcy, Olding, Henshaw and Earls would all be ahead of him, as would Payne when he qualifies. Our depth in the centres is better than it ever was, even if it lacks the world class touch it once had.
 

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