Wales vs England - 16/03/2013

[Peat]

Go well. I've been noticing recently how every fried chicken shop manages to be called something different, even though in theory the adjectives which can be applied to 'fried chicken' should be fairly few... I guess that's north east London for you.

Back to rugby...has anybody else noticed how Mke Brown tries to get involved and steal ball at every breakdown? The man seems to think he's Ugo Monye...

Yeah, he does - which I like. He's ready to scrap for everything, it's one of the things I like about him - he's all heart. Angry, angry heart.

Back to fried chicken - Can't say I have tbh, but then down south it tends to be the same few chains, none of which mention chicken in the ***le... I think. I can never remember their names, they're all the same to me. I think I went to a Morleys.

 

[Ospreylian]

Back to fried chicken - Can't say I have tbh, but then down south it tends to be the same few chains, none of which mention chicken in the ***le... I think. I can never remember their names, they're all the same to me. I think I went to a Morleys.

On the note of fried chicken, there is a place in Sheffield called the Chick King. Weirdest name ever. It's like it's trying to be a pun but doesn't quite pull it off and ends up just sounding creepy.

 

[Thingimubob]

On the note of fried chicken, there is a place in Sheffield called the Chick King. Weirdest name ever. It's like it's trying to be a pun but doesn't quite pull it off and ends up just sounding creepy.

There's one in Swansea called 'Chicko Land' that makes a killing as it's next to the biggest nightclub in the city. Never really understood that name either...

 

[Ospreylian]

There's one in Swansea called 'Chicko Land' that makes a killing as it's next to the biggest nightclub in the city. Never really understood that name either...

Hahaha, Chicko Land sounds like a fast food theme park. Only in Swansea. In terms of pizza places, there's one me and my housemates frequent called Pisa Pizza. Fantastic name. Fantastic pizza. Fantastic deals.

Edit: Ooooh, and there is a chippy up here called Northern Sole. I love fast food puns.

 

[mochyn]

I think the 16th player will be Englands undoing!

 

[mstar]

THe more i think about this its going to be a very ugly game. Don't expect a craker ppl.

England will play the possession game mirroring the Ireland game kick chase and force penalty's etc. They will kick into areas they want to play (Cuthbert side as he is the weaker positionally in the backline) and kick for corners using Farrell and Goode (and if England are behind 12T will come on and do the same)
It's quite obvious the game plan is to pressure the welsh lineout which hasn't been solid in 6N. The inclusion of Croft also tells me they fancy their chances for some steals too. England has a lot more options in the lineout which will be the platform for their attacks (and certainly the thinking by SL). I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of attempted mauls to get metres by England. ALl coming from the good lineout positions and catches by parling/croft/wood.

Its so interesting Croft is chosen he was chosen for a reason. His mobility/athleticism/pace is seen as protection against the devastating welsh backline (as they WILL run against England and we need some pace around the park to at least tackle them before they get up to full speed) and also offensively using his pace in attacks as Englands attacking threat is very light with the mis-firing backline. Otherwise i think he would of been on the bench and come on with 30mins to go.

The game plan i see is to hammer wales's most obvious/slight weakness and that's the lineout (against good teams). Also SL will be looking for Barrit etc to make sure the defence is solid as Wales have used the same tactic all 6N and thats direct force over the gain line going through the phases then QUICK swing out to the wingers/centres when gaps arise OR hope they force penaltys when they get close to the try line as the opposition panic. The game plan has never changed for Wales it works as they have a good forward pack/scrum. And I don't expect it to change within a week turn-around.

Very interesting tactical battle this one. With both teams looking to play in opposite half's i can see discipline will be crucial as both teams have VERY good kickers. I don't see trys in this game. If there is a try it will be a welsh try.
The subs England have have slightly more firepower so for a close game it might just swing it England's way.

 

[mstar]

I also want to say thanks to all the Wales supporters on here together with the Scottish fans on TRF your very well behaved, i can't see much name calling/rude remarks etc etc. Its nice having a constructive discussion rather then name calling/personal insults etc etc we had with other games we had on here in the 6N.

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

I think the 16th player will be Englands undoing!

This may very well be the case. My only crumb of comfort is that Wales have lost the last 5 matches at home.

 

[McTallshort]

I think the 16th player will be Englands undoing!

Yeah I expect the England players to attacked by pink hatted cowgirls wielding blow up daffodils as they leave the coach.

 

[Ospreylian]

I also want to say thanks to all the Wales supporters on here together with the Scottish fans on TRF your very well behaved, i can't see much name calling/rude remarks etc etc. Its nice having a constructive discussion rather then name calling/personal insults etc etc we had with other games we had on here in the 6N.

Oi, what are you trying to say about Welsh fans?? That we're always calling people names and being rude? Why you little English *$&*£ $*£* *****!!!

 

[dullonien]

It’s quite obvious the game plan is to pressure the welsh lineout which hasn't been solid in 6N. The inclusion of Croft also tells me they fancy their chances for some steals too. England has a lot more options in the lineout which will be the platform for their attacks (and certainly the thinking by SL). I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of attempted mauls to get metres by England. ALl coming from the good lineout positions and catches by parling/croft/wood.

The game plan i see is to hammer wales’s most obvious/slight weakness and that’s the lineout (against good teams).

Amazingly, the Welsh lineout has been better than England's this 6 nations. Ian Evans is important here, he's a very good lineout jumper. We've also mixed it up well, using Tipuric etc. towards the tail.

I still agree though, that the lineout is a weakness of ours on occasion. The Ospreys link in this regard will hopefully help though. With Hibbard, Ian Evans, Alun-Wyn Jones, and Tipuric all from the same club, the familiarity is hopefully good.

 

[mstar]

Good spot! Ospreys lineout thats going to help surely.

 

[martinspoonboy1]

On the note of fried chicken, there is a place in Sheffield called the Chick King. Weirdest name ever. It's like it's trying to be a pun but doesn't quite pull it off and ends up just sounding creepy.

Is that the one on London Road?

 

[Ospreylian]

Is that the one on London Road?

YES! You're in Sheffield too? Here...

Most classy looking fast food place in the history of **** fast food places.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

I half expect Ashton to get a carded in this match, for something silly!

 

[martinspoonboy1]

YES! You're in Sheffield too? Here...

Most classy looking fast food place in the history of **** fast food places.

Yeah ! London Road has some rough looking food joints! A good falafel place tho!

 

[martinspoonboy1]

I think Wales may well win this one, maybe by 8 and steal the championship. Only comfort is that they havent won at home in a while, ah well, we'll see!

 

[dullonien]

I think Wales may well win this one, maybe by 8 and steal the championship. Only comfort is that they havent won at home in a while, ah well, we'll see!

Again, if Wales win by 7 we will steal the championship. I have no idea why the media have even bothered confusing things by saying it needs to be 8. No way will Wales win by 7, but England score 2 more try's to draw the championship, or 3 more to win.

England would have to give us a minimum of 6 penalties to draw the championship (if England's two try's are unconverted), or 8 penalties for England to retain the championship (again with two of the three try's going unconverted). This would be without England scoring any penalties either, so for every penalty England knock over, you'd have to add another for Wales, which would easily move the required penalties to something like 9 and 11. It can happen, but so unlikely that we may as well forget about it.

 

[martinspoonboy1]

Again, if Wales win by 7 we will steal the championship. I have no idea why the media have even bothered confusing things by saying it needs to be 8. No way will Wales win by 7, but England score 2 more try's to draw the championship, or 3 more to win.

England would have to give us a minimum of 6 penalties to draw the championship (if England's two try's are unconverted), or 8 penalties for England to retain the championship (again with two of the three try's going unconverted). This would be without England scoring any penalties either, so for every penalty England knock over, you'd have to add another for Wales, which would easily move the required penalties to something like 9 and 11. It can happen, but so unlikely that we may as well forget about it.

Yeah i know it only has to be by 7 but i think theyll win by 8! lol

 

[dullonien]

The bastion of knowledge that is ESPN Scrum p) has them at:
Barritt: 27 made, 3 missed (90% completed)
Roberts: 18 made, 3 missed (86% completed)

Just found out that Jon Davies actually has the best tackle completion stats, making 94% of his tackles.