Wales v South Africa - 23/11/2024 (17.40)

OllyM97 · 2024-11-18T21:58:00+0000

What's the point?. Fair play to the Welsh fans that actually turn up to this one. SA will play their 2nds or 3rds and still put up a cricket score.

IT157 · 2024-11-18T21:59:52+0000

OllyM97 said:
What's the point?. Fair play to the Welsh fans that actually turn up to this one. SA will play their 2nds or 3rds and still put up a cricket score.

Less so now that Wales have one of their best players not available.

Wales lock Adam Beard ruled out of South Africa Test

Wales have suffered another blow with the loss of their most experienced player for the final autumn Test series game.

www.bbc.com

dullonien · 2024-11-18T22:12:33+0000

I don't know why, but I have a feeling Wales will keep this one close, maybe even be in the lead in the final stages, only to come up just short.

Could be completely wrong though.

Welsh Exile · 2024-11-18T22:51:16+0000

Don't be silly. We're going to get bent over and severely rogered with no lube. We might keep it close for a bit knowing it's Gatlands last game but I can't see that lasting longer than the first 20/30 mins at best.

Welsh Exile · 2024-11-18T22:51:47+0000

This thread can get in the ******* bin actually.

Yulia · 2024-11-18T23:05:21+0000

I'm for Wales this time...

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ChicagoKid · 2024-11-19T14:27:33+0000

Hanekom making his debut on Saturday. The best part of that is no longer having to listen to Welsh commentators repeat 50x a game that he is Welsh-qualified through his maternal grandmother as the Dragons/Cardiff/Scarlets get their pants pulled down.

AlRums · 2024-11-19T15:18:00+0000

Welsh Exile said:
Don't be silly. We're going to get bent over and severely rogered with no lube. We might keep it close for a bit knowing it's Gatlands last game but I can't see that lasting longer than the first 20/30 mins at best.

Ouch

TRF_stormer2010 · 2024-11-19T16:22:23+0000

Happy for Hanekom to make his debut. He probably would have made a 23 earlier if not injured. I do however hope there isn't *too* much tinkering.

Yes, we do have some depth in quality but I believe it is to some extent overblown and I can really see a beleaguered Welsh side put us under immense pressure- it certainly wouldn't be the first time a less than fancied Wales pushes us all the way or get one over us.

Edit: Oh, I see the team has already been announced;

5 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 10 Jordan Hendrikse, 9 Jaden Hendrikse, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Jean Kleyn, 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Ox Nche.
Subs: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Gerhard Steenekamp, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Eben Etzebeth, 20 RG Snyman, 21 Cameron Hanekom, 22 Cobus Reinach, 23 Handre Pollard.

Ja, thankfully more of a mix than a full on B-side.

AngloScotsHybrid · 2024-11-19T16:30:17+0000

Im surprised Ox is fit. Looked a nasty knee injury

Saintjay · 2024-11-19T16:40:38+0000

I was going to back Wales for this one then I saw the SA team and bench. I'll support @Welsh Exile this is going to hurt.

The days of Wales matching up well against SA are probably long gone.

OllyM97 · 2024-11-19T16:41:30+0000

SA by 50.

Welsh Exile · 2024-11-19T17:06:10+0000

Saintjay said:
I was going to back Wales for this one then I saw the SA team and bench. I'll support @Welsh Exile this is going to hurt.

The days of Wales matching up well against SA are probably long gone.

As I say, the only thing is that seeing as it's Gatlands last game I can see there being extra emotion from the players but that will only buy us 10 mins or so.

If we keep the loss inside 25 points I think we've done well.

TRF_stormer2010 · 2024-11-19T17:17:40+0000

I've seen a report with PSDT at 7 but also with Elrigh Louw at 7. Either way there is enough of a backbone ITO experience to provide a framework for the development players to find shape hopefully.

And I prefer the experience on the bench which means the players who will need experience the most get it in the shape of the responsibility to open the match.

Jordan Hendrikse is probably 4th choice at best (I think picking a rwc squad he'd certainly miss out and you'd rather play either a Damian Willemse or Sanele Nohamba out of position if it came to it and trust the flexibility of those playets) but with Feinberg-Mnogomezulu not traveling why not give him another chance at this stage.

I have SA by 10 or less. Think we will probably lose some shape and won't be able to keep up the intensity that we need at our best. Also, think Wales are due a good game on top of us having struggled to put away Gatland sides since I can remember feels like.

Scotty · 2024-11-19T17:30:26+0000

TRF_stormer2010 said:
Happy for Hanekom to make his debut. He probably would have made a 23 earlier if not injured. I do however hope there isn't *too* much tinkering.

Yes, we do have some depth in quality but I believe it is to some extent overblown and I can really see a beleaguered Welsh side put us under immense pressure- it certainly wouldn't be the first time a less than fancied Wales pushes us all the way or get one over us.

Edit: Oh, I see the team has already been announced;

5 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 10 Jordan Hendrikse, 9 Jaden Hendrikse, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Jean Kleyn, 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Johan Grobbelaar, 1 Ox Nche.
Subs: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Gerhard Steenekamp, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Eben Etzebeth, 20 RG Snyman, 21 Cameron Hanekom, 22 Cobus Reinach, 23 Handre Pollard.

Ja, thankfully more of a mix than a full on B-side.

Imagine having Marx, Synman and Etzebeth coming on fresh at 60 min.

Welsh Exile · 2024-11-19T17:40:18+0000

Scotty said:
Imagine having Marx, Synman and Etzebeth coming on fresh at 60 min.

They're lucky Beard is injured.

IT157 · 2024-11-19T18:56:39+0000

Welsh Exile said:
They're lucky Beard is injured.

Indeed. He's by far the best current Welsh player. Although he still pales in comparison to the locks of South Africa.

Welsh Exile · 2024-11-19T19:05:42+0000

IT157 said:
Indeed. He's by far the best current Welsh player. Although he still pales in comparison to the locks of South Africa.

He's not even the best lock at the Ospreys. Though, to be fair, I value Beard a lot more at regional level. Good club player.

mdaclarke · 2024-11-19T19:12:29+0000

I fancy the Welsh for this. Wales have always been Bok Kryptonite.

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