Transfers rumours

[munstermuffin]

John Andress has agreed terms with us. Just need to be approved. 2 year deal.

 

[Groundhog]

John Andress has agreed terms with us. Just need to be approved. 2 year deal.

Greeeeeat

 

[big ginger 8]

Is the next level Munster offer a contract to anyone who's IQ and seen a scrum?

 

[munstermuffin]

Rumour is IRFU won't allow any NIQ tight head prop for 5 years. So we have to produce a good few.

 

[Groundhog]

Yay they're signing a real up and comer who's likely to see Irish game time in Andress.... Nawt
It's just a really petty NIQ ruling in my opinion which is highlighted by forcing a guy like Sagario who might be worth a look out for a guy who will see an equal amount of caps for Ireland. IE zero. Really useless squad player signing imo. Decent project player would be a far better idea, although where we would find one I don't know.

 

[psychic duck]

Yay they're signing a real up and comer who's likely to see Irish game time in Andress.... Nawt
It's just a really petty NIQ ruling in my opinion which is highlighted by forcing a guy like Sagario who might be worth a look out for a guy who will see an equal amount of caps for Ireland. IE zero. Really useless squad player signing imo. Decent project player would be a far better idea, although where we would find one I don't know.

Exactly right. Been saying this for years about overseas rulings.

 

[munstermuffin]

Yay they're signing a real up and comer who's likely to see Irish game time in Andress.... Nawt
It's just a really petty NIQ ruling in my opinion which is highlighted by forcing a guy like Sagario who might be worth a look out for a guy who will see an equal amount of caps for Ireland. IE zero. Really useless squad player signing imo. Decent project player would be a far better idea, although where we would find one I don't know.

No but he's IQ so helps with depth. Earls and Murray got their 3 year deals.

Our Uruguayan may be staying but he takes up an NIQ spot and ideally you want these used on starters. And nobody is saying Andress is signed as a starter.

 

[Amiga500]

Yay they're signing a real up and comer who's likely to see Irish game time in Andress.... Nawt
It's just a really petty NIQ ruling in my opinion which is highlighted by forcing a guy like Sagario who might be worth a look out for a guy who will see an equal amount of caps for Ireland. IE zero. Really useless squad player signing imo. Decent project player would be a far better idea, although where we would find one I don't know.

Pity youse didn't sign Marty Moore then I guess....

 

[Peat]

Exactly right. Been saying this for years about overseas rulings.

I have to say, I've recently converted to this point of view.

Andress is worse than useless. He's not a good player, he's not a good mentor, he's not a good professional. And he will command a sizeable wage at a guess because there's a very limited number of IQ tightheads out there. An NIQ who's at least some of the above and comes for cheaper would be genuinely better for Team Ireland, even a capped one.

By all means, intensify the search for IQ tightheads. Bring Conor Carey back. Run a camp to see which AIL tightheads have pro potential. But don't waste time on the proven failures.

There's almost always at least a few Ulster fans that wants to see this or that old boy brought back. No one wants Andress back. They're pointing and laughing.

 

[Groundhog]

No but he's IQ so helps with depth. Earls and Murray got their 3 year deals.

Our Uruguayan may be staying but he takes up an NIQ spot and ideally you want these used on starters. And nobody is saying Andress is signed as a starter.

But he could develop. He seems like quite a driven intelligent guy who manufactured himself a decent pro career. Andress however is in fact worse than what we have, and the guys we have are getting walked around the pitch most weeks. His inclusion is to the benefit of no one. At best he's Pro 12 standard and blocks the development of another prop we'd be forced to develop, which is exactly their argument against an NIQ.

 

[Peat]

No but he's IQ so helps with depth. Earls and Murray got their 3 year deals.

Our Uruguayan may be staying but he takes up an NIQ spot and ideally you want these used on starters. And nobody is saying Andress is signed as a starter.

It's not that this doesn't make sense given the current IQ/NIQ rules, it's that it shows the current IQ/NIQ rules don't make sense, barring Andress have a damascene conversion away from being mental.

 

[munstermuffin]

But he could develop. He seems like quite a driven intelligent guy who manufactured himself a decent pro career. Andress however is in fact worse than what we have, and the guys we have are getting walked around the pitch most weeks. His inclusion is to the benefit of no one. At best he's Pro 12 standard and blocks the development of another prop we'd be forced to develop, which is exactly their argument against an NIQ.

And he might be staying. I must stress Andress isn't signed as a new starter. Just as quad depth player in a position we are low on depth. And it isn't signed off yet. Connacht have also offered a 2 year deal but as I said it's just for depth.

 

[Groundhog]

And he might be staying. I must stress Andress isn't signed as a new starter. Just as quad depth player in a position we are low on depth. And it isn't signed off yet. Connacht have also offered a 2 year deal but as I said it's just for depth.

But if we're signing guys who we accept aren't going to improve and are below first team standard what's the point? I would rather a young guy be brought into the setup and tested than have this guy who has a history with bad attitude and work ethic vegetating in a rotation spot instead. Besides we should have Archer, Ryan and possibly Sagario there next year anyway.
I really do feel this would be a huge injustice if (as you say maybe only if) Sagario is shown the door.
Edit: what ever happened to the plan to turn Cronin into a TH actually Muff? Was it a failure?

 

[munstermuffin]

But if we're signing guys who we accept aren't going to improve and are below first team standard what's the point? I would rather a young guy be brought into the setup and tested than have this guy who has a history with bad attitude and work ethic vegetating in a rotation spot instead. Besides we should have Archer, Ryan and possibly Sagario there next year anyway.
I really do feel this would be a huge injustice if (as you say maybe only if) Sagario is shown the door.
Edit: what ever happened to the plan to turn Cronin into a TH actually Muff? Was it a failure?

But Sagario call isn't 1 Munster can make without IRFU sanctioning it.
Cronin still occasionally goes TH in training but it stalled as he was injured or Killer.
Archer is still high risk due to his neck. And look I agree Andress has a poor record on and off field since he went to Quins but he's coming for cheap if it goes through and I suppose there'll be a way out if needs be. McCabe may be in mix too but regards any NIQ IRFU have to say ok.

 

[acnewcastle]

Armitage brother linked with a return to the premiership

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I'd heard Bath are after Delon.
Would suggest they don't agree with England that Watson's future is 15.

 

[acnewcastle]

Bath are after them both

 

[Every Time Ref]

I'd heard Bath are after Delon.
Would suggest they don't agree with England that Watson's future is 15.

Assume he'll do a Reverse Abendanon, ie in France he's a world beater, at fullback at the Rec a good but limited player who no one seriously considers England material.

To be honest he sounds like another big money signing in a position we don't need. As does Steffon. Are we really turning into the rugby equivalent of a loud arsehole in an expensive suit lighting his cigar off burning £20 note in a bar in the City? Joy

 

[Tony Manx]

Assume he'll do a Reverse Abendanon, ie in France he's a world beater, at fullback at the Rec a good but limited player who no one seriously considers England material.

To be honest he sounds like another big money signing in a position we don't need. As does Steffon. Are we really turning into the rugby equivalent of a loud arsehole in an expensive suit lighting his cigar off burning £20 note in a bar in the City? Joy

Craig=Boujedall=Craig!!

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

How many London Irish academy's lads left then?