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Five years sounds fair. Also scrap grandparents.
I don't want to hear anybody whinging about Dirksen, when he is eligible, he will have lived in Wales for five years at the minimum by the time he is capped.

@Olyy, what an incentive! I expect every Jones and Evans in Australia to come over now. We've got a fûcking great bridge after all.
 
Yeah, and it's not like his a Kiwi with a Scottish grandmother, it appears his connection to Wales is more substantial.

I think he's very unlucky not to have played at 15 for the All Blacks. Dagg has been gash almost since 2011 and last season in particular I think there was a reasonable agrument for him to be dropped, leaving room for Abscombe to at least bench.

Not sure about him as a 10 though. Wasn't great for the Cheifs there lat weekend by then he doesn't play much there due to Cruden being, obviously, much better option there.

Anscombe is a good player, but I feel he is rather over-rated. He is nowhere near the top 5 10's in the country (Carter, Barrett, Cruden, Slade, Taylor, and even Sopoaga now are well ahead of him), and wouldn't be in the top 5 fullbacks either (Smith, Dagg, Piutau, Tom Marshall, Nanai-Williams, Jane, and Barrett are all better options), therefore (rightly) hasn't been anywhere near All Blacks selection. He is still very young (22) so could develop into a test class player, but he is not near that level yet. Indeed he probably wouldn't be starting for the Chiefs if all their players were available (Tikoirotimu, Nanai-Williams, and Marshall would be my first choice back 3). He is an average 10 - he stands far too deep on attack, struggles to control the game, and doesn't like tackling forwards that run at him. He acceleration/pace and long kicking game make him handy at fullback where he has some space to move, but I still don't think he has mastered the positional aspects of fullback yet. His biggest asset is his goal-kicking - he is a 80%+ kicker and has an excellent range too - that alone can make him a valuable.

As a slight aside, Kirwan seems to be receiving a whole lot of flak for de-listing Anscombe from the Blues initially, but I'm not sure whether people actually know the full story. Anscombe was obviously a talented young player, but he struggled to prove himself at 10 for the Blues in 2012 - indeed he had not yet proved himself yet at ITM Cup level, and was included in the Blues more on potential (and the fact the Blues had no other options) than anything else. He wasn't actually dropped by the Blues as such - the NZRFU only allows franchises to protect 28 players - Kirwan and co. decided he wasn't in the top 28 players in the squad, so they didn't protect him (and were hoping to pick him up as one of there last 4 players). Based on performance Anscombe probably didn't deserve to be in the top 28 players, the only reason he would be included is based on potential. A number of sources have suggested Anscombe also was not the easiest player to deal with off the field either. He was not happy about being dropped from the starting spot at the Blues, as he apparently had a sense of entitlement that only a coaches son could have (his father was the coach of Auckland / NZ U20's).

After being left out of the initial Blues squad he was very close to leaving NZ rugby. He wasn't planning on going to Wales, the country of his mother that he holds so dear to heart but, but rather to Ireland. By all reports he was very close to signing with Ulster, and committing himself to Ireland. To be fair I don't think this was purely out of a desire to play international rugby, rather he was simply planning on throwing his toys out of the cot and running to his daddy (who was the new Ulster coach). Obviously this didn't happen (as the Chiefs offered him a contract), but it does again illustrate how farcical the current international eligibility rules are! (I would be happy withe 5 years / scrap the grandparents rule as has been proposed here).

Anyways.... Good luck to Anscombe if he decides to leave. Unless he improves a lot I can't see him being a major improvement on the current crop of Welsh 10's, and Wales aren't really in need of a goal-kicking fullback at the moment....
 
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I wonder if Anscombe not coming to Ulster helps explain the lessened commitment of Anscombe senior. There were rumours, but they didn't really make sense. I mean, there has been interest in a utility 10/15 this season, but last season there simply wasn't space for a non-IQ version. We had too much need for NIQ signings in other positions. If Anscombe snr wanted to bring him in, and Humph was going "Nope", might explain why Anscombe was looking to leave...
 
I wonder if Anscombe not coming to Ulster helps explain the lessened commitment of Anscombe senior. There were rumours, but they didn't really make sense. I mean, there has been interest in a utility 10/15 this season, but last season there simply wasn't space for a non-IQ version. We had too much need for NIQ signings in other positions. If Anscombe snr wanted to bring him in, and Humph was going "Nope", might explain why Anscombe was looking to leave...

The Dogs on Street know Ulster are getting rid of Anscombe after next year. He'd be going even if he won HEC and wanted to stay. Similar to Penney
 
Irish media had been reporting a lot of rumors recently including
Payne---> Leinster
Hogg---> Ulster
Henshaw----> wherever the **** Joe wants him

It's all bit bizarre really. I can't see Payne wanting to move to Leinster after having spent 3 years settling in Belfast but the rumors say hes to be BOD replacement.
The next one makes more sense if the first one is true, Hogg is a handy enough replacement for Payne but he's an international probably expensive and Ulster already have slighty over stocked back 3.
Henshaw is suggested to munster but again would only make sense if the first 2 are true.

A more realistic senario to me would be Henshaw to Leinster and leave Hogg out of it, but if all of these are true then the IRFU would have the big 3 with starting IQ 13's making it a little easier to see who should replace BOD if 3 players are getting regular first class club rugby game time.

To throw another spanner in the works my dad told me that he spoke to Henshaw's father and that he was the one who signed Henshaw on with Connacht till 2016. Which would add further to the speculation that he would be ok to leave in search of top class game time, particularly with Connacht pretty much out of the RCC next year.
 
Oh ffs.

Payne is not going to Leinster.
Hogg is not going to Ulster.

The Irish media is talking out of its collective Khyber pass and can we please kill these rumours. Not saying there wasn't substance to them but the're not happening or at least that's the word from people I trust.

edit: Snoopy - if they're planning to promote Neil Doak, seems odd they kept Anscombe on for a year when he was already on hand to replace him.
 
Oh ffs.

Payne is not going to Leinster.
Hogg is not going to Ulster.

The Irish media is talking out of its collective Khyber pass and can we please kill these rumours. Not saying there wasn't substance to them but the're not happening or at least that's the word from people I trust.

edit: Snoopy - if they're planning to promote Neil Doak, seems odd they kept Anscombe on for a year when he was already on hand to replace him.

I agree a lot of it is very very out there I just laying them out there as this is the place for it. I think the only realistic one is Henshaw somewhere else.
 
Thought they would have been looking for someone a bit better. Going to be hard filling in for Muller.
 
Seems to be highly rated by Saffers... maybe not, I'm not familiar with him tbh.
I thought it was the other one Flip Van Der Merwe that was the good one ? Maybe I have gotten them mixed up which wouldn't surprise me :p I remember when we signed Hargreaves thinking who the hell is this guy whats he going to do he then turns into one of our best players, I guess it's like New Zealand and wingers, the production line for second rows in South Africa is just ridiculous. I wonder if they are going to try to get Bekker as he would be a world class replacement for Muller.
 
Flip Van Der Merwe is that fat dirty ****. Good player but a massive arsehole - currently serving a ban for punching Paddy Ryan in the face after a scrum collapsed.

Supposedly Franco is practically a Muller clone.
 
No, I'm not confused as to which VDM we're talking about - I've just seen people say he's good.

Clearly that's not necessarily true though.
 
Oh ffs.

Payne is not going to Leinster.
Hogg is not going to Ulster.

The Irish media is talking out of its collective Khyber pass and can we please kill these rumours. Not saying there wasn't substance to them but the're not happening or at least that's the word from people I trust.

edit: Snoopy - if they're planning to promote Neil Doak, seems odd they kept Anscombe on for a year when he was already on hand to replace him.

On Doak issue it was same as here at Munster. They want Irish coaches to learn and then inherit the stability. Anscombe will be gone next year and Doak or someone else will come in. Munster was same plan except Rob got job in Japan so Axel was rushed a year. I don't agree and while I think Axel will be a success as a coach here I don't think Rob deserved to loose job.
 
Gotcha. Yeah Franco played for us last year, he wasn't awful, but I'd rank him behind PSdT, Bresler, Lewies, Marais just at the Sharks.
 

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