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4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days - 10/10.
 
Finally got around to watching the Hangover,
Was completely different to what i was expecting (an american pie-esque film) but as good as everyone said it was
 
re-watched Copland the other night since it first came out in 1997
with Stallone, Keitel, Liotta, De Niro,
Robert Patrick is savage and Janeane Garofalo is great and doesn't make you want to tear your eyes out.

even with all the bravado and posturing, it still stands up as a solid film.
the actors are having a field day opposite each other,
and playing characters that are east coast backstabbing-thugs or too-proud-good-guys has been ingrained in their careers - they make it look effortless.

the film takes its time, and i think it's worth it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stormer2010 @ Jan 13 2010, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Watched 'Where the wild things are' testerday. Don't make the same mistake.[/b]

That would be because it's for 8-10 year old kids and parents who may not understand their hyper-emotional kids. It's actually not a film for young adults as such. It's a psychological character study of children who feel isolated from their family and friends. Many film critics understand this and it's reviewed well. It's really not mainstream entertainment at all.

It's funny seeing people pick it up thinking it's a fantasy action romp for the whole family. Saw a group of 18-22 year olds at the cinema come storming out demanding their money back. Just about ****** myself laughing. They looked pretty embarrassed and angry. :lol:

If your not interested in how emotional kids think and feel when they feel alone and isolated with no father figure then DO NOT WATCH THIS, lol.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Jan 14 2010, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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:bravo:

:lol:[/b]

Yep a complete re-hash, but a damn good re-hash. Most stories lack originality now and probably will for most of the rest of human history, because a large slice of whats tellable has already been told.

In the following I'm not talking about yourself Charles, but the guy who made that comparison. I think that people feel clever when they point the above out. They aren't clever though, they are just the people no ones ever heard of desperately wanting to feel better than someone whos achieved far more than they ever will. Thats a whole lot sadder than lack of originality to be honest.

Still as a joke, it has it's merits I guess. :)

James Cameron has already come out and said that he realises the similarity between his movie and Dances With Wolves, I guess this is his next apology. I'd imagine that he was so focused on making his movie, that he probably wasn't looking around at film history for examples of his story. It was always going to happen to someone and it's happened to be James Cameron.

Edit: I just realised that I've disagreed with a guy who just repped me for something else. Always feel awkward when I do that, lol. :)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (C A Iversen @ Jan 14 2010, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Jan 14 2010, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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:bravo:

:lol:[/b]

Yep a complete re-hash, but a damn good re-hash. Most stories lack originality now and probably will for most of the rest of human history, because a large slice of whats tellable has already been told.

In the following I'm not talking about yourself Charles, but the guy who made that comparison. I think that people feel clever when they point the above out. They aren't clever though, they are just the people no ones ever heard of desperately wanting to feel better than someone whos achieved far more than they ever will. Thats a whole lot sadder than lack of originality to be honest.

Still as a joke, it has it's merits I guess. :)

James Cameron has already come out and said that he realises the similarity between his movie and Dances With Wolves, I guess this is his next apology. I'd imagine that he was so focused on making his movie, that he probably wasn't looking around at film history for examples of his story. It was always going to happen to someone and it's happened to be James Cameron.

Edit: I just realised that I've disagreed with a guy who just repped me for something else. Always feel awkward when I do that, lol. :)
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I think you re giving Cameron too much credit. It's all about business. Any scenario with remote originality could potentially alienate potential consumers. Therefore, he chose to go for the lamest, blandest story he could find. Same goes for directing, dialogues etc. Besides why sweat it over a scenario when you can make millions without it ?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Jan 14 2010, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (C A Iversen @ Jan 14 2010, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Jan 14 2010, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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:bravo:

:lol:[/b]

Yep a complete re-hash, but a damn good re-hash. Most stories lack originality now and probably will for most of the rest of human history, because a large slice of whats tellable has already been told.

In the following I'm not talking about yourself Charles, but the guy who made that comparison. I think that people feel clever when they point the above out. They aren't clever though, they are just the people no ones ever heard of desperately wanting to feel better than someone whos achieved far more than they ever will. Thats a whole lot sadder than lack of originality to be honest.

Still as a joke, it has it's merits I guess. :)

James Cameron has already come out and said that he realises the similarity between his movie and Dances With Wolves, I guess this is his next apology. I'd imagine that he was so focused on making his movie, that he probably wasn't looking around at film history for examples of his story. It was always going to happen to someone and it's happened to be James Cameron.

Edit: I just realised that I've disagreed with a guy who just repped me for something else. Always feel awkward when I do that, lol. :)
[/b][/quote]

I think you re giving Cameron too much credit. It's all about business. Any scenario with remote originality could potentially alienate potential consumers. Therefore, he chose to go for the lamest, blandest story he could find. Same goes for directing, dialogues etc. Besides why sweat it over a scenario when you can make millions without it ?
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Just to stereotype here, (but in a positive way), I think the French are probably more likely to be negative towards Avatar. French cinema has had some very original and creative thinkers over the years, so I think unoriginality probably annoys more there.
 
Avatar, who I didn't like that much because too predictable and too American
Sherlock holmes which was awesome, can't wait for the sequel.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (C A Iversen @ Jan 13 2010, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stormer2010 @ Jan 13 2010, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Watched 'Where the wild things are' testerday. Don't make the same mistake.[/b]

That would be because it's for 8-10 year old kids and parents who may not understand their hyper-emotional kids. It's actually not a film for young adults as such. It's a psychological character study of children who feel isolated from their family and friends. Many film critics understand this and it's reviewed well. It's really not mainstream entertainment at all.

It's funny seeing people pick it up thinking it's a fantasy action romp for the whole family. Saw a group of 18-22 year olds at the cinema come storming out demanding their money back. Just about ****** myself laughing. They looked pretty embarrassed and angry. :lol:

If your not interested in how emotional kids think and feel when they feel alone and isolated with no father figure then DO NOT WATCH THIS, lol.
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Like I said, don't make the same mistake.
 
'The Day the Earth Stood Still'

Bugger me it was a borefest!
Perfect casting for Keanu Reeves though - it's the most human i've ever seen him act!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Boyo R C @ Jan 15 2010, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
'The Day the Earth Stood Still'

Bugger me it was a borefest!
Perfect casting for Keanu Reeves though - it's the most human i've ever seen him act![/b]

You should see some of the romantic flicks he did XD
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Laetca @ Jan 16 2010, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Boyo R C @ Jan 15 2010, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
'The Day the Earth Stood Still'

Bugger me it was a borefest!
Perfect casting for Keanu Reeves though - it's the most human i've ever seen him act![/b]

You should see some of the romantic flicks he did XD
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Keanu isn't a good actor. Neither is he total crap either. He's been good in some films, just not that many.
 
Oh God. The Day The Earth Stood Still remake is atrocious. And what roles have you seen Keanu in that were any good, Iverson? I avoid him like the plague after Bram Stoker's Dracula...

Gangs of New York - 8/10
The Conversation - 10/10 (Christ, Coppola was really amazing in this period)
Lost in Translation - 9/10.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Jan 16 2010, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Oh God. The Day The Earth Stood Still remake is atrocious. And what roles have you seen Keanu in that were any good, Iverson? I avoid him like the plague after Bram Stoker's Dracula...

Gangs of New York - 8/10
The Conversation - 10/10 (Christ, Coppola was really amazing in this period)
Lost in Translation - 9/10.[/b]

Yes, crap in Dracula, yes The Day The Earth Stood Still is crap, but he played the role as the role demanded. Completely devoid of human character, but even a lot of critics agree that it's because he suited playing an alien with no idea of human character. So a pass mark.

What people have to get there head around in this thread, or at least should, is hyperbole. Everythings 'total crap' or 'ultra cool'. There are 4-6/10 performances out there, yet everyone acts as if everythings either superb or dogs droppings.

Lets see decent performances: Point Break, The Gift, My Own Private Idaho, Speed, The Matrix (first one only), A Scanner Darkly (which I've yet to see the end of yet).

I personally thought he wasn't too bad in The Devils Advocate although Pacino stole the show. I also liked Constantine although he wasn't cast to the comic books correct character, it was a decent effort.

Laetca is apparently quite right from what she's said about his ability to do well in romance or romantic comedies, apparently his abilities do actually work in that style of film. Wikipedia also states that he received many good reviews for his performances on stage as Hamlet, although thats not something I can personally attest to.

He has had far more bad movies and roles than good and is a times totally at odds with the being able to tranform himself, coming off wooden or even just a parody of himself, yet there are times like any actor that he'll have his day and surprise.
 

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