Amobokoboko
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First upset of the weekend. Great win by the Cannes.
Is the Crusaders even beatable at this stage of the season. If memory serves me right, they are now about to start peaking
Just put myself in line for the Darwin award in 2012
Just put myself in line for the Darwin award in 2012
No?
Are you suggesting that a team that isn't even guaranteed a play off spot would throw a match to help another team not even guaranteed of getting a playoff match?
Don't anyone find the result suspicious looking at that log?
Well, The Canes definitely deserved the win the way they played but I can't help but feel like the Crusaders were ripped off there. The first try should definitely have been disallowed and you could say the same about the other try when Bateman ran around a lazy running Jeremy Thrush. But we'll take the win and the step closer to the play-offs.
No way did we deserve that game. The Crusaders were far better throughout that match for me. They dominated our set piece. We played with a lot of passion but not much more. Looking forward to the Chiefs in two weeks time.
good for the canes though the saders were robbed, that Smith try where Savea blocked two defenders on the line smith basically ran right into him (off side) and past the two defenders, looked to me like it was clear obstruction.
because of the call I was hoping the last kick would go over, shame it did not. It would have been a more fitting result.
I don't think it matters when it happened in the game what matters is that it was a bad call worth 7 points to the hurricanes in a result separated by less than 3 points.
Actually both of smiths trys had hints of obstruction in them, one was marginal though there was enough there to say that if it had been called back there was a case to answer. The main one though had no question about it, it was clear text book obstruction and it not being called was a very bad officiating. I simply don't believe Smith would have scored if Savea had not blocked the two defenders in front of him.
Bizarre really mainly because I've seen much less clear examples of obstruction being called in the lead up to a try. When I saw it I didn't think maybe/maybe not. There was not question about it I just expected it to be called not try, penalty.
Not too fussed about the result though because it would be good to see 3 NZ teams in the finals, and for that to happen one of the canes/landers had to win this weekend.
Canes do look like their tight 5 have improved from the start of the season, that may make them a very good side come finals time. Though I thought they were gone after losing Perenara.
I see what you're saying Larksea, I really do, but if Savea hadn't impeded, who's to say Smith wouldn't have offloaded to Savea or any other Hurricane and they had scored, 7 pts regardless. Or if he had been brought down, what if the Canes won the quick turnover and got over the line?.. It happened early in the game and although it played a part in the result, it wasn't the definitive moment.
What you are suggesting is pure speculation. Smith could just as easily have tried to offload to Savea, had the ball intercepted and ended up several plays later with a score to the Crusaders at the other end. The ONLY thing that we know for certain is that the try should never have been allowed. It was obstruction, pure and simple, and it happened right under Bryce Lawrence's nose. That is not just bad officiating, its what we term a "Critical Error in Judgement"; when a referee makes an error that directly results in a score. Its the second to worse black mark a referee can have on their assessment...the only thing worse being a "Critical Error in Law".
Meh, Bryce Lawrence is useless. I'm just happy that for once his ineptitude helped the team I support rather than hindered it. Obviously it was obstruction, but in fairness the Crusaders were very average. The people who were saying Tom Taylor is the new replacement for Daniel Carter really must be blushing. He's alright, but not exactly creative. Barrett made him look pretty poor, especially when you consider the Saders forwards, set pieces and All Black halfback.