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Ah crap! That's really bad news for Launch.
 
Yeah really bad news for Launchbury...poor wasps...losing 2 KEY players to long term injuries (Willis also).
 
Reading Launch could be out for 6 - 9 months and then it will inevitably take him a while to get back to top form (if he can). Given he's just turned 30 there's a real risk this could be the end of his international career. I really hope it isn't.
 
Reading Launch could be out for 6 - 9 months and then it will inevitably take him a while to get back to top form (if he can). Given he's just turned 30 there's a real risk this could be the end of his international career. I really hope it isn't.
That was my thoughts also. Especially if some of the young contenders, actually start fulfilling their potential...and the likes of Ribbands make a good shout.
 
That was my thoughts also. Especially if some of the young contenders, actually start fulfilling their potential...and the likes of Ribbands make a good shout.
Yep, playing well and he looks like the next cab off the rank at the moment.

Listed as 2.02 which is well above Launch and Itoje and a smidge taller than Lawes and Isiekwe. Weight varies but shown as 121 kg on Saints website which would be solid enough.
 
Yep, playing well and he looks like the next cab off the rank at the moment.

Listed as 2.02 which is well above Launch and Itoje and a smidge taller than Lawes and Isiekwe. Weight varies but shown as 121 kg on Saints website which would be solid enough.
Still wish we had managed to get Rowlands. He's our version of Geoff Parling.... who i've just seen in the Aussie's forward coach!

Sigh... I miss Geoff....
 
Anyone seen the stories of Jones currently coaching Japan and not being focussed on England?


Wouldnt be surprised as Jones comes accords arrogant enough to think he can do two jobs at once.
 
Bit of a nothing story, for me - his role as a consultant has been known for a long time, they're just trying to play up as if he's personally coaching BB to beat England (what exactly is he going to coach him? How to kick away the ball on a 4 on 1?)

Biggest surprise, for me, is he's actually made it into Japan - know plenty of people who can't get in or out atm
 
Bit of a nothing story, for me - his role as a consultant has been known for a long time, they're just trying to play up as if he's personally coaching BB to beat England (what exactly is he going to coach him? How to kick away the ball on a 4 on 1?)

Biggest surprise, for me, is he's actually made it into Japan - know plenty of people who can't get in or out atm


"See now Beuds mate, Fordy does his spiral kicks like this"


Not like he really has a prem team to watch in the champions cup this week either
 
Anyone seen the stories of Jones currently coaching Japan and not being focussed on England?


Wouldnt be surprised as Jones comes accords arrogant enough to think he can do two jobs at once.
A busy boy. He's also got a book called 'Leadership' coming out in Nov.......about which the Sunday Times snarkily started an item with "From the man who coached England to 5th place in the 6 Nations......".

Amazing that he's also found the time to create the greatest sports team in the history of anything.
 




Trying to work the theme of the english press.

I do find it funny the ego of our foreign coaches thing.
 
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Anyone seen the stories of Jones currently coaching Japan and not being focussed on England?


Wouldnt be surprised as Jones comes accords arrogant enough to think he can do two jobs at once.
I think Jones not paying enough attention is complete trash, he lives and breathes for rugby. He has an advisory capacity with a japanese side, but given he's also not in camp all the time its hardly that big a deal
Woodward likes to make big comments on things, sees himself as the grandfather/patriarch of english rugby
 
Bit of a nothing story, for me - his role as a consultant has been known for a long time, they're just trying to play up as if he's personally coaching BB to beat England (what exactly is he going to coach him? How to kick away the ball on a 4 on 1?)

Biggest surprise, for me, is he's actually made it into Japan - know plenty of people who can't get in or out atm

Timeline is odd too the article mentioned he was in Japan in January, that can't be right can it?

He does have a Japanese passport and isn't his wife Japanese? Also sportsman and entertainers seem to get in even with counties with strict rules. My sister works in Korea and had to work in Tokyo for a week but had to quarantine first so maybe he got via a different country.

It is a nothing story but the English press all want him gone all are in full attack mode. This won't stop till he either is sacked or wins a Grand Slam.
 
Timeline is odd too the article mentioned he was in Japan in January, that can't be right can it?

He does have a Japanese passport and isn't his wife Japanese? Also sportsman and entertainers seem to get in even with counties with strict rules. My sister works in Korea and had to work in Tokyo for a week but had to quarantine first so maybe he got via a different country.

It is a nothing story but the English press all want him gone all are in full attack mode. This won't stop till he either is sacked or wins a Grand Slam.
And being the hypocrites they are, if he does win a GS or even the next world cup, they'll say how they knew all along he would and how supportive they've been and completely ignore all their own negative press coverage.
 
And being the hypocrites they are, if he does win a GS or even the next world cup, they'll say how they knew all along he would and how supportive they've been and completely ignore all their own negative press coverage.
Unfortunately this argument always falls down.

Just because something worked, it doesn't make it the most effective things.

You can walk from London to Manchester, you can drive from London to Manchester, get the train or fly.

They all get there but just because you walk it doesn't make it the most efficient.

We have the most players, the best club game. We should be always up there in the top 1-2 in the world. Just because Lancaster and Johnson were poor coaches it doesn't make Jones' approach correct.
 
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