True enough, I suppose I'm still dreaming of '09 Roberts, where he'd hit people then offload to BOD in space.
Those guys have 3-4 inches on him. Two stone is hyperbole, but I'm struggling to find another prop in international rugby who possesses a higher weight to height ratio.
And it's not about how long you're on the field, but how much you do while on it.
Didn't look very hard then. Your very own Afoa is the same height and only 1kg lighter (and also immense in the loose).
France's Luc Ducalcon is the exact same height and weight. In fact, of the top 5 tightheads named by rugbyrama. Ducalcon and Hayman are the lightest both the same as Adam at 120, the others Wihongi, Johnston and Tialata are all pushing 130 (
http://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/top-1...rs-droits-de-la-saison_sto3791305/story.shtml), all taller but Wihongi is 3cm taller and 10kg heavier (
http://www.castres-olympique.com/equipe/effectifs.php), Tialata is only 4cm taller and Johnston 6cm so I doubt that Adam is above them in ratio either. Johnston is immense in the loose as well despite his weight.
So there I think there is pretty solid evidence that you can be that weight. And those were just the top props named above, there are a whole bunch of even heavier props who have played international rugby. Ollie le Roux was the same height as Adam and much heavier, his weight stats range from early 120's up to 135. Mako Vunipola is shorter and 10kg heavier (
http://www.rfu.com/squadsandplayers/englandelite/makovunipola).
Also to be an international prop, you need to be a top scrummager. So regardless of weight, that's what's most important as to whether you are suitable to international rugby at prop. So I don't quite get how he can be too overweight for international rugby, when he clearly isn't otherwise he wouldn't be in the squad in the first place. Adam has evolved to become adequate enough in the loose anyway these days, and is in the top 5 top scrummagers at least in world rugby if not top 5.
Is that why though, Duck?
Adam's been puffing pretty bad come the 50th minute in games. And, in virtually all positions we have highly related replacements, and they still don't often enter the fray until much later.
Props can be 120kg and do a full 80... I think maybe Feicarsinn's point is that, on the evidence of this tour, Adam Jones isn't one of those players
It's pretty obvious that a prop with more weight is different to a fly half or winger. In France it's basically a tactic of every single top team there like Toulouse and Clermont to have two sets of international front rows and change at 55 minutes. Leicester brought on Castro this season at 50 or 60 ahead of Cole as well, that's what teams do when you have two good props. If you have Carter and Sexton, a coach will probably still play Carter 80 minutes. If you have two good props, normally a coach would play them 50/30 or 60/20, especially since there are now two props on the bench and you can bring props back on as well. It's a clear difference between positions.
If someone is a good player for an hour and you have a good sub to come on I don't see the problem either. Adam has gone off every game with a lead as well and done well scrummaging. It was the impact of the prop who was better in the loose who nearly cost the 1st Test, and it was a bloody awful decision to take Corbisiero and Adam off together that early.
Adam played at least 70 or more in every 6N game as well, and could have played 80 in most of them with coaches giving players 2 minutes at the end for the sake of it in some games such as the England one. And has offered moments like this late on in games as well.
Philips is divisive but again I think you're right to have him back. For me, it's as simple as this: (I think it will be a) predominantly Welsh pack are now used to having that physicality around the pack, and certain players look rather lost when they don't have it.
Phillips played behind an entire Welsh pack last year and was awful vs Australia. The fact he plays with them doesn't mean you keep a poor performing player. A large amount of the Welsh pack played for the Ospreys superbly when they thrashed Munster and beat Leinster in 2012 with Fotuali'i and Webb at 9. 4 or 5 of the pack won't be Welsh anyway.
