RWC: Springboks - Namibia (22-09-2011, 20:00)

[RuckinGoodStats]

Pre game stats for Spingboks v Namibia.

Kickers in #RWC2011 #Springboks M. Steyn 77% (10 from 13) F. Steyn 1/1. Namibia Kotze 43% (3/7) M. Steyn in 2011 80% (97/122) F Steyn 1/1.

Concerning #South Africa average #RWC2011 stats:Miss 1 in 5 tackles,19 lost possessions/turnovers (4@ruck 8 hand errs) 8 pens (3 in possession,6@ruck)

Concerning #Namibia average #RWC2011 stats:Miss 1 in 3 tackles,24 lost possessions/turnovers (4@ruck 9.5 hand errs) 10.5 pens (1 in possession,5@ruck)

Average #RWC2011 stats #South Africa want to continue:12.5 linebreaks 7 offloads0 intercepts 1 charge downs broke 30 tackles (12.5 in OPP's 22)

Average #RWC2011 stats #Namibia want to continue:8 linebreaks 6 offloads1 intercepts 0.5 charge downs broke 20 tackles (7 in OPP's 22)

Ave 2011 stats #Springboks want to continue:9 linebreaks, broke 21.8 tackles (5.8 in OPP's 22)

Concerning 2011 #Springboks stats ave: Miss 1 in 4 tacks, 21.3 lost posses/turnovers (4.2@ruck, 9.2 hand errs) 8 pens (3.3 in poss 4.8@ruck)

Ref Clancy #RWC2011 ave per game: 4 scrum resets, 7.5 scrum infringes 21.5 pens (11.5@ruck, 9.5 in 22) 3 were pen kicks

Clancy #RWC2011 ranking from 10 refs (1 most/highest): 1st​ pens inside 22, 1st​ for scrum infringements 5th​ for scrum resets 5th​ for pens

Clancy favours right side of field for awarding penalty kicks at goal penalties. He award's twice as many on right than the left side #RWC2011

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Smit looks like he's about to have a heart attack

 

[TRF_heineken]

Smit looks like he's about to have a heart attack

Here's holding thumbs he does...

 

[UilamOsa]

The Boks are terrible - they don't look like they know how to construct space to open up their opponents. And it's full strength team.

Namibia should've had at least one yellow card.

Congrats to Habana. But it feels like 1 step forward from the Fiji Game and 1 step backwards.

Ah well 25 minutes to go. Namibia blindside is Awesome.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Why does phil vickery need to shout all the time?

 

[UilamOsa]

And the Floodgates have opened. Wales might be feeling a lil bit of rendevous...with Hougaard's try...

 

[SouthernSpringbok]

Yep the floodgates have indeed open, South Africa is doing well.

 

[UilamOsa]

Boks should be disappointed. They should have put 100+ in that game. Much like the AB's vs Japan it was a B+ training run.

 

[TRF_heineken]

Boks should be disappointed. They should have put 100+ in that game. Much like the AB's vs Japan it was a B+ training run.

Why?

they were clearly testing something out with quick ball and numerous long passes... 2 or 3 guys standing on the line coming inwards... whatever they were trying to figure out clearly worked...

 

[UilamOsa]

I don't understand your "why"?

I'm not too sure what were they were testing or if it worked, but given that they dominated the Setpiece, cleared their own ball - just felt that they should've been able to take control of the match from the outset. Create opportunities to attack from a variety of ways (Scrums/Lineouts/Rucks) but it seemed they shovelled the ball outwide, that opportunity was closed down - didnt secure the ball well enough after 2nd phase and then resorted to putting the pressure back on the Namibians by kicking.

Poor mistakes led to failed opportunities to score.

There was at least 3 missed tries through poor handling - equalling 21 points. 100+

 

[TRF_heineken]

I don't understand your "why"?

I'm not too sure what were they were testing or if it worked, but given that they dominated the Setpiece, cleared their own ball - just felt that they should've been able to take control of the match from the outset. Create opportunities to attack from a variety of ways (Scrums/Lineouts/Rucks) but it seemed they shovelled the ball outwide, that opportunity was closed down - didnt secure the ball well enough after 2nd phase and then resorted to putting the pressure back on the Namibians by kicking.

Poor mistakes led to failed opportunities to score.

There was at least 3 missed tries through poor handling - equalling 21 points. 100+

I asked why because you said they should be disappointed, and I don't think they should be, to score 80+ against a team is no small feat, and to do that without conceding a single point is brilliant... heck, NZ couldn't even achieve that vs Japan.

in every game there will be missed opportunities, its about what you do after you missed it how to recover from it... and i think there the Boks showed great composure, sticked to what needed to be done, and took the physicality a step up... and believe me those sand-farmers are tough as nails...

 

[SouthernSpringbok]

For a team ranked 19th, Namibia certainly stood their ground in my opinion. Good play to our northern brothers. As for whether the score was good enough? Honestly now.... this is part of the problem with the rugby world cup, we expect so much of our teams, we can't just celebrate them as they are and the effort they put it. Even if south africa got 20-16, I'd still be proud of the boks. They're there to represent their country and that's that.

 

[Jer1cho]

Boks should be disappointed. They should have put 100+ in that game. Much like the AB's vs Japan it was a B+ training run.

Disappointed? We did fumble some opportunities, but when we got it right, we looked good. Give credit where it's due. 87 points with zero conceded, while not even playing near our best is a hell of a lot better than what Samoa could do.

 

[SouthernSpringbok]

I can tell you now as well, Samoa will be no small feat.... I hope De villiers takes precautions for the Samoan game because they can be an effective team.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

For me the good and the bad:

GOOD
1 Some guys who're off form had better games than in most of their recent outings
- Habana got a try! Can you believe it. Hopefully that settles his nerves although Hougaard is clearly in better form at wing (so too Aplon)
- Spies had a good game but will he be able to repeat it against sterner opposition?
- Smit linked up well a number of times although he's work in the tight was a bit suspect and might cost us against better opposition. Still not Bismarck
2 Kept Namibia at 0. Scrambling defense did well on stopping their breakaways and the 1st time tackling was a bit better than in the past 5 games to date. Most of Namibia's breakaways came from turn-overs
3 Discipline was good.
4 Bench again made a huge impact. I get the feeling that if/when we win in the knock-outs a lot of it will be thanks to our bench.
5 1st and 2nd choice pivots did really well (Hougaard, Steyn, FdP, Pienaar)
6 Goalkicking was great with a difficult ball and if we could keep the accuracy up we can close out the coming close matches through superior goal kicking

BAD
1 Lambie looked uncomfortable to me. Not helped by his team mates on occasion but didn't live up to expectation IMO.
2 Too many missed opportunities through handling errors and we were lucky 1 or 2 forward passes weren't called TBH. Biggest concern IMO.
3 Scrum started struggling as soon as Smit went to prop. When will we stop doing this to ourselves?
4 We gifted Namibia too many opportunities through turn-overs particularly at the line-out
5 Outplayed at the breakdown for most of the game. Brussow is VERY important to our cause.

 

[Boggle]

Yeah I called the game with Boks winning by 80 (that sneaky Hougaard try at the end spoiled my perfect prediction )

So I am very happy indeed with this game.
Yes, we were a bit messy the first half, just a few simple errors we should really not have been making like screwing up the line out throws or knocking the ball on once or twice, but still nothing extremely worrying, the performance in the second half was much better and you could see Namibia really came back strong after that half time break.

and surprise surprise, the scums started failing just about the time chillyboy got on and Smit was moved to prop, which was pretty much expected.

Still a good performance in my opinion, people who are wanting 100+ points in a rugby world cup game seem to be asking for too much, this was a devastating run at Namibia either way, what I find even more impressive than the huge scoreline is that they didn't even get a single 3 points on us.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Boks should be disappointed. They should have put 100+ in that game. Much like the AB's vs Japan it was a B+ training run.

Why should they have? Does winning by only 87 mean we don't stand a chance against Samoa or in the knock outs?

 

[UilamOsa]

Disappointed? We did fumble some opportunities, but when we got it right, we looked good. Give credit where it's due. 87 points with zero conceded, while not even playing near our best is a hell of a lot better than what Samoa could do.

Would South Africa like a medal for beating a Tier 2 nation after the beating they've received from 2 previous matches in an unfair condensed Rugby World cup tournament? You want credit for that? Fine. It was good performance from the Boks, I'd say far more impressive than the AB's vs Japan. But if your happy with that performance, then thats pretty sad. Namibia's a brave team and deserve better in this tournament, but they seem at the very least happy with their games and the support.Also, why bring Samoa into this? Where have I referenced any comparisons to South Africa. The fact that Samoa is even competitive in Rugby and the RWC 2011 - Despite the fact they have way more issues tha SA - make SA complaints pale.

Why should they have? Does winning by only 87 mean we don't stand a chance against Samoa or in the knock outs?

I honestly don't believe how any team could be overjoyed when they haven't played to their full potential. Or at least come very close to it. What relevance did this match have to serve to the knockouts other than fine-tuning Gameplans, Setpieces or putting players into form and fitness?Again with referencing Samoa. Isn't that just childish? Did I mention at any stage comparisons between the two sides? I'm only comparing this Bok team with the Better Bok teams of the past and what this Bok team is potentially capable of.

 

[Jer1cho]

Oh i see you are that same tosser that said we play **** rugby. Clearly you have something against SA. Anyway, not going to bother arguing with you, as you clearly know better.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Would South Africa like a medal for beating a Tier 2 nation after the beating they've received from 2 previous matches in an unfair condensed Rugby World cup tournament? You want credit for that? Fine. It was good performance from the Boks, I'd say far more impressive than the AB's vs Japan. But if your happy with that performance, then thats pretty sad. Namibia's a brave team and deserve better in this tournament, but they seem at the very least happy with their games and the support.Also, why bring Samoa into this? Where have I referenced any comparisons to South Africa. The fact that Samoa is even competitive in Rugby and the RWC 2011 - Despite the fact they have way more issues tha SA - make SA complaints pale.

I honestly don't believe how any team could be overjoyed when they haven't played to their full potential. Or at least come very close to it. What relevance did this match have to serve to the knockouts other than fine-tuning Gameplans, Setpieces or putting players into form and fitness?Again with referencing Samoa. Isn't that just childish? Did I mention at any stage comparisons between the two sides? I'm only comparing this Bok team with the Better Bok teams of the past and what this Bok team is potentially capable of.

Nobody is overjoyed; this was always going to be a win and most posters here do see the things we have to work on. Overjoyedand wanting a medal as you put it? No but certainly not dissapointed like you said we should be.

What relevance does this game have? What a silly question. Should we not have played it? The relevance is getting some players a go (Aplon, Hougaard at 9, Alberts, De Jongh, Pienaar, Ralepelle, Lambie), getting 5 points and getting time together.

I brought up Samoa as we face you guys next and this game has bearing as it is the preperation and your post suggested we got nothing out of this game looking forwards (toward Samoa).