Rugby 2012 player ratings? Players with 99

[lucky number 7]

Jerkoff Jeric1cho, I see you are rather good at mobbing. It is my opinion and I am entitled to it. I am talking current form, I am not saying that Morne or Schalk has or will ever reach the pinnacle of the McCaw and/or Carter in their hay day. Go do yourself a favour and you will see that Morne Steyn broke all past SUPER RUGBY points records this year. He is a prolific points scoring machine. What did Carter do this entire Super 14 mate? He was comfortably outplayed by Morne Steyn, Quade Cooper and dare I say even the unlucky Peter Grant. With the law changes this year the Crusaders did not even know where to play Richie McCaw because his was no longer effective in his old role as fetcher and he was switched between 6 and 7. I will be the first to admit that McCaw for years has been the world leader but the new rules have suited Burger more and this was proved in the S14 this year. McCaw has also lost a yard or two in pace. The Stormers smashed the Crusaders in the Super14 this year and Schalk Burger proved to be a great leader and inspiration in the win making both Carter and McCaw look rather ordinary.

if anyone is a better fetcher than mckaw its brussow ...not schalke i dot really see what the big deal is with him anyway...morne steyn is good also..but if you think carter is past his peak go ask the welsh what the thoguht of him a few weeks back...

 

[nickdnz]

Really, "Jerkoff Jer1cho"?...



I mean, really?

 

[Feicarsinn]

Ah yes, Schalk Burger, what a great leader to have.

 

[Celestial Panda]

Ah yes, Schalk Burger, what a great leader to have.

And to think the coach practically condoned that. It's sickening.

 

[SavageLez]

And to think the coach practically condoned that. It's sickening.

I give you that, the coach is a pr.....!

 

[eastside]

richie mccaw = 92 best flank in the world
dan carter = 94 best fly half in the world
ma'a nonu = 82 good at busting the line , but got no kicking game , and lack tackles experience
fourie du preez = 87 best half back in the world
pierre spies = 84 fast ,strong but is he good enough at the breakdowns
schalk burger = 89 one of the best flanker in this world solid defence
victor matfield = 86 best second row in the world
Sonny bill williams = 84 still learning needs more experience
thierry dusautoir = 83 good player and leader
rocky elsom = 85 good overall player got guts
shane williams = 82 fast got some stepps but thats it
hosea gear = 83 fast ,strong ,watch the maoris vs england game yu will know
matt giteau = 87 best austrailan firsts since larkham , cooper on the rise tho

 

[gmoe]

richie mccaw = 92 best flank in the world
dan carter = 94 best fly half in the world
ma'a nonu = 82 good at busting the line , but got no kicking game , and lack tackles experience
fourie du preez = 87 best half back in the world
pierre spies = 84 fast ,strong but is he good enough at the breakdowns
schalk burger = 89 one of the best flanker in this world solid defence
victor matfield = 86 best second row in the world
Sonny bill williams = 84 still learning needs more experience
thierry dusautoir = 83 good player and leader
rocky elsom = 85 good overall player got guts
shane williams = 82 fast got some stepps but thats it
hosea gear = 83 fast ,strong ,watch the maoris vs england game yu will know
matt giteau = 87 best austrailan firsts since larkham , cooper on the rise tho

Sorry dude, But if Hosea Gear is 83.. then SBW is definately in the 70's!

I would rather have HB look at individual traits rather than overall, so although someone is super quick, they may not have the agility of a flanker eg: Brian Habana. Therefore their rating might be something more of an 85 rather than a 90.

Whereas someone like Brussow, McCaw would be in the 90's due to their ball stealing abilities, agility and general speed.

All this talk about Morne Steyn over Carter is quite puzzling. Morne is only good behind his forward pack, Carter can break a game from anywhere. You swap Carter for Steyn at the Bullls, and they would win 4 straight! I watched Morne live against the Reds this year and he was atrocious, and he goes missing when the Bok forwards are overwhelmed. This weekend would be a good test to see how they both line up, sure DC had a bad Super 14, but he got his stuff together against Wales and Ireland.

 

[Dexter Tauvao]

Victor Matfield 95
Daniel Carter 92
Richie McCaw 93
François Steyn 90
Bryan Habana 89
Francois Hougaard 87
Joe Rokocoko 88
Schalke Burger 92
Heinrich Brussow 94
Morné Steyn 93
Piri Weepu 90
Matt Giteau 91
Stirling Mortlock 90
Jaque Fourie 90
Lee Byrnes 88
Gavin Henson 86
Guthrö Steenkamp 87
Pierre Spies 87
Juan Smith 90

 

[Dexter Tauvao]

richie mccaw = 92 best flank in the world
dan carter = 94 best fly half in the world
ma'a nonu = 82 good at busting the line , but got no kicking game , and lack tackles experience
fourie du preez = 87 best half back in the world
pierre spies = 84 fast ,strong but is he good enough at the breakdowns
schalk burger = 89 one of the best flanker in this world solid defence
victor matfield = 86 best second row in the world
Sonny bill williams = 84 still learning needs more experience
thierry dusautoir = 83 good player and leader
rocky elsom = 85 good overall player got guts
shane williams = 82 fast got some stepps but thats it
hosea gear = 83 fast ,strong ,watch the maoris vs england game yu will know
matt giteau = 87 best austrailan firsts since larkham , cooper on the rise tho

Matfield Deserves far more than that eg 93?
McCaw isnt the best flank I'd say either Brussow or even Juan Smith ahead of him
Carter is still a game breaker, has got back some of his form, but not as good as in 06?
Morne Steyn does rely on the forward and could be the reason why the Boks dont use much of their dangerous backline, but his kicking game should come close if not match Carters, His game against the Reds this year was horrible. But he does turn into something else when he puts the Green and Gold jersey on.. I guess the tri nations this week should tell us who could be beter out of Carter and Morné Steyn

Du Preez is about 90 mainly because of his box kick, and his leadership come ruck and maul time
I would rate Schalke Burger less than Heinrich Brussow, but thats because Burgers a little old, and has lost form since 07. Too bad Brussow is out injured.

Oh, I forogt to mention Bismarck du Plessis?? Any rating for him? I'd say around 85?

 

[SavageLez]

Bismarck Du Plessis = 89. Def one of if not the strongest hooker in the world. He has great upper body strength, he is fast, good throw into the lineout, strong srcummager and he is good on defense (almost like a 4th loose forward). Pitty he is injured, may be good for him to rest ahead of next years RWC and S15!

 

[verigoat]

So...Lez...how about those Saffas now

 

[_George]

these are ratings which i think should be added to the game ...

- Speed - Acceleration - Passing - Kicking skill - Kicking power - Goal kicking - Strength (fending, tackling, and power) - Sidestep - Awareness (the ability to get through small gaps, and break tackles etc.) - Offloading - Scrummaging - Hooking - Lineouts - Breakdown .

extra abilities ...

- Leadership - Flare - Creativity - maybe Attitude (agressive, cool, calm, etc. )

 

[lance2010]

All Blacks ratings
Mils.88
Jane.85
Joe Rokocoko.88
Conrad Smith.90
Ma'a Nonu.87
Dan Carter.93
Piri Weepu.85
Kerian Read.84
Richie McCaw.94
Jerome Kaino.84
Brad Thorn.89
Tom Donnelly.92
Tony Woodcock.90
Keven Mealamu.89
Ben Franks.82
I just added all these ratings together and divided by 15 and got a rating of 88 New Zealand Rating =88 but thats just on my own opinion

 

[Dizzy]

ratings would be the hardest thing to work with in the creation of this game... not everyone is going to agree with them

 

[NEEPS]

I know this isnt really what the forums about but i want to see chris patersons goal kicking stats raised i think that 81-82 for overall stats is about right but his kicking should at least be 95-98 (because no one is more than 99% acurate) i mean he is the most accurate goal kicker in the world but ends up with only 75 for goal kicking, fair enought he iskicknt great from long range so they should cut his kicking power but increase his accuracy

 

[ranger]

I know this isnt really what the forums about but i want to see chris patersons goal kicking stats raised i think that 81-82 for overall stats is about right but his kicking should at least be 95-98 (because no one is more than 99% acurate) i mean he is the most accurate goal kicker in the world but ends up with only 75 for goal kicking, fair enought he iskicknt great from long range so they should cut his kicking power but increase his accuracy

I would say that noone is 95-98% accurate either..

 

[NEEPS]

yeh ur probably right bt paterson has to at least be around 90% accurate from short range

 

[nickdnz]

I would think it would be better if 70% in terms of goal kicking was about average for a fly half. I think goal kicking would be best done on a player kicking average. No kicker kicks goals 95% through a season. Morne Steyn was around 82%, which was pretty good. I think both international and season goal kicking stats should be given to players, but make a kicking rating of 70 or so, easier to kick.

PS
Chris Paterson is not a brillaint goal kicker, he's just good. There are plenty better in my opinion.

 

[NEEPS]

I agree with that system and yeh chris patterson isnt brilliant but from short range u cant argue with his stats he does deserve to get a higher accuracy rating than he was given in past games and now that im actually properly looking at his kicking form i was being more than just a bit optamistic :L and when ur saying that 82% is very good i agree they should maybe set up a system that makes it harder to kick beacuse it was too easy on the other games

 

[highfield.ben]

There is no way I'd rate Spies at 90+, 85 sure, but not 90+. He has pace, who doesn't? He has power, who doesn't? Gio Aplon did more than him against France. Spies was driven back constantly and got hammered by Morgan Parra. He doesn't ruck and if he wants to **** about like a back, put a god damn 12 on your back or get the **** off the park, play like an 8, not like a girl who is afraid of getting her nails ruined.

Chris Asthon 77ish.

Victor Matfield 89
Fourie Du Preez 88
Richie Mccaw 88
Dan Carter 90
Morne Steyn 84
Schalk Burger 86
John Smit 88
Ma'a Nonu 83
Conrad Smith 87
Jaque Fourie 86
Bryan Habana 82
Gio Aplon 81
Ed Fairhurst 5
Tommy Bowe 84

tommy bowe should without doubt be the best rated winger in the game! over the last 2 years he has performed outstanding in every game for the ospreys, ireland and the lions( without doubt he is in the top 3 players from that tour along with jamie roberts and rob kearney)

john smit should only be 78 cus hes gettin too old! victor matfield should only be 81 . . . . . morne steyn should be way higher . . . . .burger should only be 75 and i would now rate francois louw and heinrich brussouw higher than him . . . . . . other than that i agree with the rest