[November Tests 2017 EOYT] England vs. Argentina (11/11/2017)

[g6mcg]

I only saw the last 20 and highlights, but I'm still very unconvinced by Daly on the wing. Sounds ridiculous given he's a Lions starter and a very talented player, but he often makes decisions of a centre not a winger and I think hat hurts England in attack and defence.

 

[Nudger]

So next Saturday it's Ford Farrell Joseph
The week after I want to see Farrell slade Joseph not sure that will happen

 

[Nudger]

Does anyone know how brown is?

 

[Which Tyler]

Angry

 

[TRF_Olyy]

So next Saturday it's Ford Farrell Joseph
The week after I want to see Farrell slade Joseph not sure that will happen

You want to see Slade at 12 again but not Lozowski?!

 

[Nudger]

You want to see Slade at 12 again but not Lozowski?!

Yes I don't think one can judge a player on one performance

 

[Nudger]

Yes I don't think one can judge a player on one performance

And at some time I want to see Loz at 10

 

[ncurd]

Yeah we have two proven world class 10's that will see is through to the next two world cups. What we really need to do is throw a meaningless cap there to someone on the off chance we need a third choice.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Yeah we have two proven world class 10's that will see is through to the next two world cups. What we really need to do is throw a meaningless cap there to someone on the off chance we need a third choice.

We have a world class 12 and a 10 that didn't make the Lions. I agree with what you're saying but that statement is false.

 

[ncurd]

We have a world class 12 and a 10 that didn't make the Lions. I agree with what you're saying but that statement is false.

He didn't make the Lions because Gatland is a ***.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

He didn't make the Lions because Gatland is a ***.

He didn't make the Lions because at the time he didn't deserve to. His move to Leicester has clearly done a lot to reinvigorate him but I still wouldn't call him world class. EJ defines world class as someone who puts in a 8/10 performance every time they go on the field. Ford is not that.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Just chuck Slade in at 10 for a bit too, why not?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Why do people want to shoe horn Slade in at 12 when 13 is up for grabs?
Loz and Francis both looked better as 12's in the june tour and Loz looked better when he came on at 12 yesterday.
Slade is looking more and more like a excellent 13 for Chiefs so why not stick him at 13?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Te'o and Marchant called up by England.

Could we see Ford, Faz and Te'o play.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Te'o and Marchant called up by England.

Could we see Ford, Faz and Te'o play.

"Te'o will be in camp until Wednesday to continue his rehab on an ankle injury he picked up last month while on club duty."
So no, not this weekend at least.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Damn it could do with him.

Slade and JJ had zero impact in holding the defence

 

[NDC89]

To be fair to JJ, he seems to be getting a brick wall in front of him all the time with England atm. Only recent game that wasn't that way was Scotland. A playmaking 12 might just not hold defences enough to make him space.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

To be fair to JJ, he seems to be getting a brick wall in front of him all the time with England atm. Only recent game that wasn't that way was Scotland. A playmaking 12 might just not hold defences enough to make him space.

You are right but at the end of the day if you're dropping one of Ford, Faz or JJ out of that midfield it's a no contest. Te'o at 13 may even open up some space on the inside for Ford to readopt his running game.

 

[Which Tyler]

You're right, it's a no contest that the worst player of the three is the most secure

 

[TRF_Olyy]

You're right, it's a no contest that the worst player of the three is the most secure

I'd say Joseph's spot is far from secure, especially when Te'o is back