Lions: Return to Oz

[Peat]

Looking at Dunc's squad, I feel very safe in saying that there is zero chance that the Lions will rock up to Australia with 4 full-backs, 9 back-rowers and only 4 respectively in terms of lock and prop. Zero chance. Possibly below zero.

 

[Draggs]

Doesn't need to be capped to be selected.

No, but we have no clue if he can step up.

There is a marked difference between Visser/Flutey and Faletau/sort of Tuilagi. Not trying to start this whole s***fest again.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Faletau/sort of Tuilagi.

Why "sort of Tuilagi"?
Is a couple of years (yet still both children) really that different?

 

[TRF_Cymro]

No, but we have no clue if he can step up.

There is a marked difference between Visser/Flutey and Faletau/sort of Tuilagi. Not trying to start this whole s***fest again.

I was referring to the likes of Brynmor Williams and Derek Quinnell.

 

[Draggs]

I was referring to the likes of Brynmor Williams and Derek Quinnell.

No, I understand.
In all fairness, that was very different, the 1970s. Brynmor would have had a stack of caps if he played now, with substitutions and all.

 

[Peat]

Why "sort of Tuilagi"?
Is a couple of years (yet still both children) really that different?

Apparently so. Fortunately the brand new generation of English-born and bred Tuilagis will sidestep this argument completely in traditional style i.e. running over the argument's face.

 

[Teh Mite]

Why "sort of Tuilagi"?
Is a couple of years (yet still both children) really that different?

Of course there is... One is a nationalisd Celt, the other is a nationalised English *******. Different rules doncha know.

 

[cyRil]

Well there is a diffference in moving when you're 6 and when you're 13. Toby is now 21 (15 years in Wales), Manu 20 (7 years in England) - so Toby is doubly qualified to represent the Lions!!!

In all seriousness, there is more chance that Toby has developed an idea of identity and nationalism associated with Wales merely due to him coming over at an earlier stage. If you watch interviews with him he is clearly Welsh as ****! Similarly Manu's idiotic, clueless, monosyllabic answers to interviewers questions leaves me without doubt that he is 100% English.

 

[big ginger 8]

Watchout Dunc, BG8 will be after you because you did the Gethin Jenkins > Cian Healy

You are the very one who attacks me the second I say anything good about Healy. I'm waiting untl the Clermont game to start it all again.

Have to say SO'B should go can play 6 and 8 to a high standard and is improving all the time as a 7 at least a good squad player brilliant bench option as well.

 

[psychic duck]

Much like Fionn Carr before him. And Tom Varndell. And Matt Banahan. We don't have a clue as to whether he's any use until he plays internationally.

none of whom have been the leading try scorer in their domestic league for three years in a row (Carr and Banahan haven't even done it once), and been a main reason in getting Edinburgh into the Heineken Cup knockout rounds

or have ever done this to Tommy Bowe ...

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[markjudge]

I'd like to make one change to my squad: Sean O'Brien for Ben Morgan. He'd begin the tour as 4th choice 6,3rd choice 7, and 3rd choice 8, yet may well start the first test!

Potentially a brilliant tourist, reminds me of Corry in 2001, Ryan Jones in 2005

Regarding Cuthbert and Ashton, I think it may be prudent to take a couple of out and out finishers to Oz. Roberts to smash it up the middle, then get it wide and score in the corners. Neither makes the test side for me, but both would help us to put 80 on a couple of the midweek sides!

An argument for Ryan Jones as a 5th lock?

 

[cyRil]

An argument for Ryan Jones as a 5th lock?

Yes, and I'd make it til the cows came home.

 

[Teh Mite]

none of whom have been the leading try scorer in their domestic league for three years in a row (Carr and Banahan haven't even done it once), and been a main reason in getting Edinburgh into the Heineken Cup knockout rounds

or have ever done this to Tommy Bowe ...

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So he can look okay in a 2nd string side for a team who are clearly not interested in the league. Big whoop. He's a 2nd rate player not fit to lace the boots of the real Scottish wingers, let alone the competition from Wales, Ireland and England.



Best winger in the UK, my arse.

 

[psychic duck]

So he can look okay in a 2nd string side for a team who are clearly not interested in the league. Big whoop. He's a 2nd rate player not fit to lace the boots of the real Scottish wingers, let alone the competition from Wales, Ireland and England.
Best winger in the UK, my arse.

 

[cyRil]

...This could get interesting.

 

[SelimNiai]

I agree with Mite, look, Visser is a good player but a Lions Tourist? No chance.

 

[Feicarsinn]

So he can look okay in a 2nd string side for a team who are clearly not interested in the league. Big whoop. He's a 2nd rate player not fit to lace the boots of the real Scottish wingers, let alone the competition from Wales, Ireland and England.



Best winger in the UK, my arse.

Psychic Duck, you may need one of there:

Just apply directly to the area of burn.

 

[psychic duck]

not fit to the lace the boots of the real Scottish wingers?

I would explain why he is easily better than Lee Jones, but there's no point wasting my time doing so to people who have a grudge against him for whatever reason

plenty of other knowledgeable rugby fans can see he is a good player anyway, if you don't want him to play because he's Dutch that's another subject

Visser is insane.
Such a good player.

I'd take Visser, without a doubt. The man's Alec Guinness, you can't deny it.

there's no denying he's a try scoring machine.

Absolutely supporting Tim Visser in this... Expecting big things from him when he qualifies for Scotland.

Visser continues on his form and then brings it to the table with Scotland then it will be hard press not to select him to tour.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Is everyone trolling in here or....?
Visser is an excellent winger.

 

[SelimNiai]

not fit to the lace the boots of the real Scottish wingers?

I would explain why he is easily better than Lee Jones, but there's no point wasting my time doing so to people who have a grudge against him for whatever reason

plenty of other knowledgeable rugby fans can see he is a good player anyway, if you don't want him to play because he's Dutch that's another subject

Oh calm down dear