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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Nov 8 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
proof if it was ever needed that he's an utter f***wit. The only Ospreys game he's probably seen him play was the Heineken Cup quarter final last year, probably only watches the rugby that's on RTÉ, you'd be surprised if he even watched the Lions tests, yet this is RTÉ's premier rugby analyst. He has his comedy moments but other than that his knowledge of the game leaves an awful lot to be desired, you'd have to seriously question the people who have mentioned him as a possibility to take over at Connacht.[/b]
I still defend my position about goerge hook and connaught.BY reading the papers He really seems to want the job.what is better than a oportiunist man? he's got a plan
 
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/kfauojkfqlid/rss2/

IT IS usually wise to downplay the opposition before a huge Test match, but Australia captain Rocky Elsom has a simple message for his side ahead of their visit to Croke Park next Sunday: this is the best team in Ireland’s history.



And if anyone in the Wallabies’ squad should know what they’re talking about, then it’s Elsom.

The flanker returned to his native land this summer after a hugely successful season in Dublin with Leinster, who he inspired to Heineken Cup glory with a series of absolutely outstanding performances.

Elsom sees few stronger sides than Declan Kidney’s Grand Slam winners.

"I’m really looking forward to going back to Ireland, but as an Australian, I think we’re going to win every Test match," explains Elsom, who was superb as the Wallabies blunted England’s attack and ran out 18-9 winners at Twickenham on Saturday.

"Having said that, Ireland were the form team in the Six Nations last year, so it will be our biggest test as they’re a red-hot side, there’s no doubt about that. I’ve never seen an Irish team play better than this team has.

"As I know from my time with Leinster, they have certain players â€" such as Brian O’Driscoll, Jamie Heaslip and Gordon D’Arcy â€" who just play well all the time. We know it’s going to be a difficult test.

"We’ve all had it marked in our calendars for a while as they’re a side that doesn’t have too many weaknesses."

Elsom is also well-versed in the Croke Park experience. The cauldron of GAA headquarters has been known to prove too much for some players, but not for Elsom, who shone when Leinster beat Munster in the Heineken Cup semi-final last season. And the Australian looks almost mystified when it is put to him that the atmosphere may prove too much for some of his young team-mates.

"A lot of people create a lot of noise, but it’s not necessarily intimidating," he said. "It gives you a lift if you’re on the other side, but what are the fans going to do? They won’t jump out of the stands and attack you."

Elsom will be at the centre of attention this week, returning to a city where he has attained an almost mythical status. But if Dublin loved him, it’s clear the feeling is mutual.

"I can’t think how I could possibly have had a better time with Leinster," he smiles. "I made a lot of good friends there, and the people in Dublin were really good to me.

"It’s funny how it all works out really. The main thing for me (when deciding whether to leave or not) was that I thought I would regret not going back to Australia, purely for the international aspect. That made my mind up for me."

If Ireland are to beat the Wallabies, they will have to do so against a defence that was far too strong for England’s powder-puff attack.

Indeed, it was the areas of Australia’s team that were expected to be weaknesses that shone brightest at Twickenham, no more so than in the centres, where Quade Cooper and Digby Iaone â€" nominally fly-half and wing, respectively â€" were outstanding.

Scrum-half Will Genia was superb, and crossed the whitewash just before the break to get Australia back within striking distance of their hosts. Adam Ashley-Cooper’s second-half score put the result beyond doubt, but the victory was based on the fact England didn’t score in the final 55 minutes.

Scorers for England (9) 9 Pens: J Wilkinson 2 Drop-goal: Wilkinson

Scorers for Australia (5) 18 Tries: W Genia, A Ashley-Cooper Con: M Giteau Pens: Giteau 2

ENGLAND: U Monye; M Cueto, D Hipkiss, S Geraghty, M Banahan; J Wilkinson, D Care; T Payne, S Thompson, D Wilson, L Deacon, S Borthwick, T Croft, L Moody, J Crane.

Replacements: J Haskell (for Crane, 53), D Hartley (for Thompson, 57), D Bell (for Wilson, 58), P Hodgson (for Care, 63), A Erinle (for Hipkiss, 67), C Lawes (for Deacon, 68).

AUSTRALIA: A Ashley-Cooper; P. Hynes, D Ioane, Q Cooper, D Mitchell; M Giteau, W Genia, B Robinson, S Moore, B Alexander, J Horwill, M Chisholm, R Elsom, G Smith, W Palu.

Replacements: T Polota Nau (for Moore, 61), R Cross (for Ioane, 66), D Pocock (for Palu, 68), M Dunning (for Alexander, 76).

Referee: B Lawrence (New Zealand).



This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Monday, November 09, 2009



Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/kfauojk.../#ixzz0WNoy04RV
 
I'm a pedantic *******, but it's Connacht ;)

1. Healy
2. Flannery
3. Hayes
4. O'Callaghan
5. O'Connell
6. Ferris
7. David Wallace
8 Heaslip
9. O'Leary
10. O'Gara
11. Fitzgerald
12. Paddy Wallace
13. O'Driscoll ©
14. Bowe
15. Kearney

I'm 95% sure that will be the Ireland side, and apart from young Cian Healy at looshead (which is an improvement in almost every area tbh) it is the grandslam winning team from last February.

I, and I imagine the majority of the Irish public have faith in Kidney and his coaching team to pick the right team, but I would love to see Jonny Sexton at 10 :(

16. Cronin
17. Court
18. Cullen
19. Leamy
20. Reddan
21. Sexton
22. D'arcy

will most likely be the bench too.

Ireland by 5-10 points. 13 players were either initially selected but pulled out injured or represented the Lions in the summer, with more not in the 22. It is a fine side, but we need to start picking the younger players like Sexton and Earls. What is the average age of the 10-12-13 axis (wheter D'arcy or Wallace plays 12)? Too old.
 
Everything I've seen of Sexton looks so much better than O'Gara.

However, it is a risk throwing an inexperienced guy into such a pivotal role. Just look how many young English 10s and 12s have had egg on their face in the last 5 years. However, it may make a difference coming into a team that's actually good.
 
Well he did sensationally coming into the Heino semi-final. Not the same I know, but he seems to handle pressure quite well indeed.
 
Sexton isn't in the worst form of his career, has a goalkicking percentage above 60% this season (Sexton's is actually above 80% afaik, ROG's is diabolical) and can make a f***ing tackle though. He has shown he is a big game player. He attacks the gainline and draws defenders where as all ROG has done this season is shovel it to his 12 or get turned over. We also have good options outside him, Wallace who can share the creative duties and take the pressure off the new guy, or D'arcy who he is used to playing with and will take any sort of ball and plow into the Aussie centres. I really will be disappointed if he doesn't start, but then again it is Kidney, he knows what he is doing.
 
IRELAND TEAM & REPLACEMENTS (v Australia, GUINNESS Series, Croke Park, Sunday, November 15, kick-off 3pm):


15 - Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster)
14 - Tommy Bowe (Ospreys)
13 - Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster)
12 - Paddy Wallace (Ballymena/Ulster)
11 - Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock College/Leinster)
10 - Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster)
9 - Tomas O'Leary (Dolphin/Munster)

1 - Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)*
2 - Jerry Flannery (Shannon/Munster)
3 - John Hayes (Bruff/Munster)
4 - Donncha O'Callaghan (Cork Constitution/Munster)
5 - Paul O'Connell (Young Munster/Munster)
6 - Stephen Ferris (Dungannon/Ulster)
7 - David Wallace (Garryowen/Munster)
8 - Jamie Heaslip (Naas/Leinster)

Replacements:

16 - Sean Cronin (Buccaneers/Connacht)*
17 - Tom Court (Malone/Ulster)
18 - Leo Cullen (Blackrock College/Leinster)
19 - Denis Leamy (Cork Constitution/Munster)
20 - Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster)
21 - Johnathan Sexton (St.Mary's College/Leinster)*
22 - Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster)

*Denotes Uncapped
 
I predicted 21/22 players, and I'm happy Deccie went for Earls ahead of D'Arcy for the 22 shirt. Shame Sexton isn't wearing 10 :(
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nickdnz @ Nov 9 2009, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
SA seem to have found a loop hole in the game which means they can essentially play the most boring rugby in the world and win. It is like they don't take chances.[/b]


eg Perth test against a wallabies team down to 13 men and they still didnt go wide to the jets like habana and jp......just kept lobbying up dem up and under bombs!
 
Thats a very strong looking 22.made even stronger looking when you look at who's not in it for ditterent reasons
horan
best
jennings
darcy
 
Hard to criticize a coach with Declan Kidney's track record but....................Ronan O'Gara????????? Happy with the rest of it. Earls deserves his spot on the bench ahead of the out of sorts D'arcy.

Congrats to Cian Healy on winning his first cap. Hopefully Sean Cronin and Johnny Sexton will join him.

Munster 7+2
Leinster 5+3
Ulster 2+1
Ospreys 1
Connacht 0+1
 
I'd echo the sentiments of snoopy as well baout ROG, despite it not being a surprise. Glad that Flannery has made it and hopefully he'll get through the entire series. Hopefully Healy can come through without getting binned or giving away too many penalties, other than that delighted for him. Wallace also deserves the start. Bar O'Gara I'm extremely happy with that side and no Mick O'Driscoll on the bench so happy days!
 
Lads, ROG has been getting a bit of hard time on here lately, and I'd just like to say I'm grateful for everything he has done in a green jersey, and if he could still attack the line like this I'd have no problem with him playing right up to 2011.

But he can't! All he can do is either

1. Kick it away
2. Shovel it on to who ever is standing directly outside him
3. Take it into contact (95% of the time it will result in a turnover or a penalty for the opposition)

There is invention, no creativity, no spark that you get with Sexton, who does attack the line very well, has the pace to go through gaps, has a better passing ability, has the ability to draw defenders to him and make space for the men outside him, and is just a better player in almost every area opf the game, except ROG has 92 caps to his name and Jonny has 0.

Sexton needs to start asap. I fear Rocky will have ROG for breakfast on Sunday, our forwards, and Ferris in his one on one with Elsom in particular will need to have the upper hand for us to win.
 
Wallabies should have had four tries against England. Very smooth in attack, nothing flash.

Not convinced by PWallace and Fitzgerald in defence. Deccie will have to rethink at half time, but there's nothing on the bench to fill the defensive gaps.

Wallabies are also massive in defence. Ireland must be awesome in attack to win this, and that hinges on ROG - doubtful on current form. But he has the experience. Otherwise every bet has to be placed on a world class half hour from Sexton. Doubtful again.

Not hopeful at this point. Wish we had SA first up!
 
Wallabies named:

15. Adam Ashley-Cooper (Brumbies)
14. Peter Hynes (Queensland Reds)
13. Digby Ioane (Queensland Reds)
12. Quade Cooper (Queensland Reds)
11. Drew Mitchell (NSW Waratahs)
10. Matt Giteau (Brumbies)
9. Will Genia (Queensland Reds)
8. Wycliff Palu (NSW Waratahs)
7. David Pocock (Western Force)
6. Rocky Elsom (Brumbies, captain)
5. Mark Chisholm (Brumbies)
4. James Horwill (Queensland Reds)
3. Ben Alexander (Brumbies)
2. Stephen Moore (Brumbies)
1. Benn Robinson (NSW Waratahs)
Run on reserves:
16. Tatafu Polota Nau (NSW Waratahs)
17. Matt Dunning (Western Force)
18. Dean Mumm (NSW Waratahs)
19. George Smith (Brumbies)
20. Luke Burgess (NSW Waratahs)
21. Ryan Cross (Western Force)
22. James O’Connor (Western Force)

So only a single change from the team that played England, with Pocock in for Smith on the openside. I think this is basically the best team that Australia can put out - should be a great game!
 
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