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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bernard @ Nov 30 2009, 10:51 AM)
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I would say that it is kind of a big confidence you have , i would say that AB has been beaten by france exactly when they had this sort of confidence ...In being philosophe , i would say it is a good thing for the WRC that AB beats Fr so hugely yesterday , France won't come with any confidence and it is in that sort of situations that we are doing our best against AB ...
You should admit that AB does not play like that all the time , even more rarely this year , and any other match will be another situation with a result that is certainly not made in advance...[/b]
No, you are wrong. It's not confidence like we had in the past. it's fear. The All Blacks don't fear France in the world cup, but they
terrified of losing to them again. They will never take France for granted in world cups again. No matter if the have the most terrible lead in to the cup. The All Blacks are going to literally assume that France will play like supermen on the day, so if we meet again the All Blacks will play like it's the last day of their life.
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Ok i took it like sort of confidence , i understand much better
but i think it will never stop a team to make a shitty match (even if you will be carefull ) and it can happens to a lot of team ...
Edit : a France-AB final maybe ?? for once , we won't meet before the final
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Yes, all I was saying is that it's dangerous for some of you french fans to live in the past. That is the very thing which has cost the All Blacks in the '99 and '07 world cups. If the assumption is "if we meet the All Blacks in a world cup, we'll win", then thats just what we want you to think. New Zealanders have thought stupidly about playing France in those cups, "we'll beat them", "they did it to us in '99, it won't happen twice", were two of the arrogant things I heard before the quarter final.
I was working as a bouncer at a pub that night and the most common thing I heard from customers was "so, who do we play in the semi?". It was foolish.
Now everyone I speak to about a world cup says that they think the toughest team for us in a world cup is France. Everyone says they'll never make those assumptions again. I also ask, "If New Zealand had to lose the next world cup, but take down one side before they leave, who would it be"? France is the team they all say, out of world cup respect.
Some French fans have started to assume that it's a routine, that they'll beat us. Now the roles are reversed and the misplaced arrogance is going to make for an interesting situation
if New Zealand pulls of a win.
A segment of French fans assume that if we meet again in a knock out phase, that the game is theirs. Isn't that what we used to think?
I want us to meet in the next one. Rather than avoid you guys. The All Blacks want the world cup desperately, but if they don't get it, France's scalp and tears will make for a great second prize if we can get it.
To jawmalawm24. I like how you well demonstrate how New Zealanders are no longer that arrogant. It shows how realistic we've all become when someone like yourself says "how do we know we'll even make it out of pool play". It's a good thing not to assume anything, we could end up in a pool of death with Argentina and South Africa or something, or maybe with Ireland and a resurgent England, so yeah you make a point there.
My whole point is not about All Blacks arrogance, it's just this whole blind "France are your nemesis" thing. The truth is "France was our nemesis at world cups and could be again", not this assumption that we will lose if we play them at the RWC.
