Very highly rated Irish man...covers more than just the defence for SA...
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Would be great, but only if front 5 can scrummage.
Until then
6 Isiekwe
7 Curry
8 Mercer
Bit more power
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How can anyone not be picking Earl to start after that tournament? I don't really care whether it's at 7 or 8 - I think he's a legit option at both - but he's been our best player by a country mile.
IMO going forward it should either be:
6. Curry
7. Earl
8. a/n other
or
6. a/n other
7. Curry
8. Earl
T. Willis, Mercer, Pearson, Ludlam, etc. can battle it out for that 3rd spot.
IMO going forward it should either be:
6. Curry
7. Earl
8. a/n other
or
6. a/n other
7. Curry
8. Earl
T. Willis, Mercer, Pearson, Ludlam, etc. can battle it out for that 3rd spot.
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As a lock I've still got some hope for him. Didn't he have some health issues for a while that were affecting his performance or am I confusing that part with someone else?
As a flanker though? No chance. We've got a ton of talented back rowers.
i think that was Itoje...
Im just not sure he will make it as a lock now. Plus he will have some competition.
Current squad members:
Itoje isnt going anywhere
Chessum is set in stone
Martin finally put in the performance to show what he can do, and isnt going anywhere
So leaves maybe one other lock spot free?
Alex Coles?
Lewis Chessum as an apprentice
Johnny Hill to come back?
Charlie Ewels to return...sorry ill get my coat
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Yeah definitely looks like a lock now, has bulked up quite a lot since returning to Saracens from Saints and mostly played lock (barring the run in at the end of last season)
He's also only 25 which is very young for a tight 5 forward
I'd bring him in to replace Ribbans in the 6N
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L.Chessum looked very good at age grade levels but hasn't even made his prem debut yet, too early to be talking about him
If I were to guess I reckon he'll filter in during the Lions year summer tour when we'll likely be missing 2-3 locks to that
He's also only 25 which is very young for a tight 5 forward
I'd bring him in to replace Ribbans in the 6N
Nah, Isiekwe had some very serious medical issues that were life threatening let alone career threatening, was told he'd likely never play again and then had ground breaking open heart surgery last year to fix the issue, which luckily worked and he got signed off to continue playing
Nick Isiekwe: I was back within four months of major heart surgery
Nick Isiekwe would love nothing more than to be in the England squad, preparing to play Wales in Cardiff and pushing his case for World Cup selection. In many ways, he was one of those dealt the harshest of cards: an outstanding run with Saracens to the Gallagher Premiership ***le limited his...
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See I think Isiekwe is better than all of these, especially as a set piece player
L.Chessum looked very good at age grade levels but hasn't even made his prem debut yet, too early to be talking about him
If I were to guess I reckon he'll filter in during the Lions year summer tour when we'll likely be missing 2-3 locks to that
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If Dombrandt can get back to full form and fitness then I'd back him to get another shot.
Realistically the main problem was his handling which is really weird given that's not been a problem before - I still have belief he is good enough as a player and was immense for quins again yesterday
Realistically the main problem was his handling which is really weird given that's not been a problem before - I still have belief he is good enough as a player and was immense for quins again yesterday
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Yeah, really kept it on the downlow (I guess he had to considering the seriousness of it), was very shocked when I saw that article crop up on twitter a few months ago
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I'd want to see both T. Willis and Mercer get reasonably extended shots at the shirt (and both would have to be unsuccessful) before cycling back to Dombrandt. He's had plenty of chances now. Let the others have a go.
i wonder if Kenningham will come in to focus aswell....hes probably more like for like with Lawes ironically despite on 6'3. Played well and scored at the weekend.
So did Ehren Painter...the 25 year old 6'4 21st prop at Exeter now. I wonder if Baxter is doing a rejuventaiton of the prop....that would be a nice bonus for England if he did turn it around. Certainly one to watch...
So did Ehren Painter...the 25 year old 6'4 21st prop at Exeter now. I wonder if Baxter is doing a rejuventaiton of the prop....that would be a nice bonus for England if he did turn it around. Certainly one to watch...
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14 caps, most of which he's being asked to play like Billy isn't exactly a fair shot though?
Base it on prem form imo, if Willis and Mercer are the form two, behind Earl (simply because he owns the shirt now imo) then they get a shot, if it's dombrandt, then let him have another go
Totally agree...both of those need trialed now...
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Pearson and Mercer for me. Them as the 4 in the 23 is a good balance i think.
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I'm pretty happy with the various back row players we've got. It's not the problem till we sort out the props it's all moot. We have good locks and back row just finding two props who can hold there own is about the best i can hope for.
Id be amazed if SB didnt beg Cole to stay on for a bit longer (if he has intentions of retiring). Sinckler and Stuart need to really get their act together going forward.
Tight head.
Schonert?
Painter?? Baxter may do a job on him and hes huge.
Fasogabon??
Loose head
Baxter
Rodd needs a scrummaging camp.
West?
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Schonert won't make the next world cup, he's basically being held together by medical tape atm - he'd be OK as a stop gap for a year or two but realistically I wouldn't be looking at him. He should've been called into the RWC squad but not be viewed as a longer term option, would rather we just try out any/everyone else that's a possibility and invest time in them
Wouldn't be against Collier being called in, but it'd be a stretch for him to be in top form at the next RWC (though 36 for a tighthead isn't the same as 36 in other positions) - plus there's rumours of him going to France next season, so would need to see whether he's doing that because it's not worth investing a 6N into someone leaving a few months after
Fasogabon is years away from being ready, he's only just turned 19 - I'd be surprised if he even plays in the prem this season
Wouldn't be against Collier being called in, but it'd be a stretch for him to be in top form at the next RWC (though 36 for a tighthead isn't the same as 36 in other positions) - plus there's rumours of him going to France next season, so would need to see whether he's doing that because it's not worth investing a 6N into someone leaving a few months after
Fasogabon is years away from being ready, he's only just turned 19 - I'd be surprised if he even plays in the prem this season
i agree about Fasgabon...i was just putting a few names out as genuinely...theres not much option.
I dont rate Stuart at all...and if hes to continue...he needs a real overhaul. Likewise Sinkler...needs a kick up the jacksie...
I dont rate Stuart at all...and if hes to continue...he needs a real overhaul. Likewise Sinkler...needs a kick up the jacksie...
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Baxter was impressive again yesterday. He's still got a long way to go in terms of development yet and I'm not sure if playing for England yet would be good for that dev, but he defo should be in the convo for camp at the minute
