England need a limit to playing time

[TRF_Olyy]

Who's stood out at age grade that hasn't been given a fair go at senior? I can't think of anyone?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Who's stood out at age grade that hasn't been given a fair go at senior? I can't think of anyone?

Did Alex Gray play for Falcons much?

Hugo ellis looked good, but think he suffered because of Wasps clearing out their academy when money was an issue.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

9 times in the season he was there, apparently - wasn't he a 7s specialist though?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

9 times in the season he was there, apparently - wasn't he a 7s specialist though?

He was England U20's captain but joined 7's when XV's wasn't working out.
Viewed too light weight.

Jacob Rowan another one went from Leeds youngest club captain too meh when he moved to glous.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

He's still played a **** load though,
Over a 100 appearances at Yorkshire, averaging over 14 games a season at Gloucester
Not like he's not been given a chance

Plenty of age grade players make an impact at senior level, some just don't transition as naturally to senior rugby. Not every superstar kid becomes a superstar adult

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Looking into it.
Chris Walker jack's Older brother captained Eng U20's.

Quite a few U20's captains have ended up not doing much
Gray
C.Walker
Ellis
Backrowers aswell.

Packman maybe?
Scott Wilson

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Ludlam might be the best recent example who hasn't really had any sort of game time considering he was like the young player of the year in 2015 or something like that.

Generally you make the U20's your going to make it in a prem team on the whole.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

What's the English / overseas ratio in the AP and what's the trend?

Genuinely interested. I know what my instinct's telling me but I haven't seen any numbers.

 

[Which Tyler]

What's the English / overseas ratio in the AP and what's the trend?

Genuinely interested. I know what my instinct's telling me but I haven't seen any numbers.

By squad or by starts / game time?

For both though, much, much better than itnused to be.
A decade ago 1/3 of the league could (IIRC one even did) start an entire XV of foreigners, whikst I my 1-2 were capable of fielding a full CV of Englishmen.
Now there's probably 1-2 who couldn't, and I very much doubt anyone could field a XV of foreigners.
Last time I looked, based on starts, most clubs were 60-70% EQP with some into the 80s

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Ireland players on holiday in Dubai, England players back in the gym at their clubs.

How many England players you reckon will turn out this weekend?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Ireland players on holiday in Dubai, England players back in the gym at their clubs.

How many England players you reckon will turn out this weekend?

All of the ones not injured