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I genuinely feel Cole is borderline Haskell these days: he isn't violent but the penalties he concedes are utterly, utterly brainless. Rewind two years and he was giving them with good reason. These days they're - to paraphrase Moore - dull.
 
I genuinely feel Cole is borderline Haskell these days: he isn't violent but the penalties he concedes are utterly, utterly brainless. Rewind two years and he was giving them with good reason. These days they're - to paraphrase Moore - dull.

We measure level of infringment by what fraction of a Haskell it is? So you can go full Haskell, which is a completely brainless penalty to not even Haskell for someone who concedes nothing. Then of course you have actual Haskell.
 
We measure level of infringment by what fraction of a Haskell it is? So you can go full Haskell, which is a completely brainless penalty to not even Haskell for someone who concedes nothing. Then of course you have actual Haskell.

In theory it goes up to 100% Haskell but in reality no player who isn't Haskell can feasibly reach more than 70%.
 
Admittedly you'd struggle to reach international rugby playing like it, but surely beyond the Haskell is the Paice...
 
Anyone see that some kid commented on Haskells instagram saying he shouldn't be playing for England, or something, and Haskell tweeted at the kids school with his name saying that the kid was abusing him.
King of banter my arse.
 
We measure level of infringment by what fraction of a Haskell it is? So you can go full Haskell, which is a completely brainless penalty to not even Haskell for someone who concedes nothing. Then of course you have actual Haskell.
I kind of feel that Wood was 1.1 Haskells.
 
Paice > Haskell > Grewcock > Wood.

But as Paice didn't style himself as King of Bantz or have guns the size of small houses, we can scrub him.

A 10 on the Haskcale (I.e. Full Haskell) makes Delon Armitage look smart.
 
Not like Haskell and his chum PDJ did anything naughty in school.

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Much as I think he is a good and experienced player, and excellent to laugh at, is Kvesic going to have to poison him to get a shot?
 
Much as I think he is a good and experienced player, and excellent to laugh at, is Kvesic going to have to poison him to get a shot?

In fairness it wouldn't be hard to poison Haskell.

"Hey James! Dare you to drink this bleach!"
"Huh huh! Top bantz! OK!"
 
Downing a bottle of protein bleach would be a solid 11 Haskells (Ha).
 
The sad thing is, downing a bottle of 'Protein Bleach' (11 Ha) would still only be his second stupidest moment - that yellow card against France last year measured 18 on the Hascale
 
You say "every scenario" ... there are too many variable to cover every possible scenario, players are still responsible for decisions they make, even if the responsibility is shared with the instructions.

The three things I'd say to that

- An awful lot of coaches seem to be going to their damn'est to ensure there are no decisions, only the instructions. They'd remove the players' brains and replace them with software programs if they could. No one ever got dropped for following instructions, but decisions? Not saying Jones is that sort of coach, this is more of a general point - but then, I'm not saying he isn't. He does have a reputation as a micro-manager for what it's worth.

- In an ideal world though, these things *are* player decisions - just the players collectively made the decision on how to respond to certain scenarios collectively in a calm environment, rather than when stressed and tired as individuals. Which I think is a lot better. It's, say, the difference between discussing what car you want with your wife at home, and getting in a row at the car dealership while the salesman tries to sucker you into a bad deal.

- Obviously you can't cover everything, but perfection is worth aiming for, even if you can't get there. They should certainly be doing the major scenarios and I'd argue defending a 5m scrum/lineout when on a final warning from the ref is one of the major scenarios.

There's still individual decisions to be taken at the time, but every sensible team's looking to reduce the number of them taken, and in most cases the individual decision is on how to pursue a particular goal, rather than what goal to pursue (i.e. how to prevent the maul getting from across the line at all costs, rather than should I be trying to prevent the maul from getting across the line at all times).

I make these points more as academic points on the issue rather than arguments, as we seem mainly in agreement on the specific situation.

We now return to your daily schedule of laughing at Haskell.
 
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Lulz. Discuss.
Edit: ah it's been thrown up in the match thread. Apologies
 
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