England 2024/25

[AngloScotsHybrid]

In big Courts defence and with my Saints bias he was a very, very good back row player.

His ball carrying was abysmal for a back row player. His posture was too upright.
It always amazed me that someone so good at tackling could be so bad at ball carrying.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

His ball carrying was abysmal for a back row player. His posture was too upright.
It always amazed me that someone so good at tackling could be so bad at ball carrying.

Fair, although he definitely improved that in the latter part of his career.

 

[BPM]

His ball carrying was abysmal for a back row player. His posture was too upright.
It always amazed me that someone so good at tackling could be so bad at ball carrying.

I'd agree it was the weakest part of his game, but abysmal is very harsh. Other parts of his game were world class IMO.

The original post was about locks playing at 6 when actually, Lawes probably should have been considered the other way round. I'm pretty sure he always said he preferred 6. Perhaps if Saints/England had focused him solely on 6 he could have been unquestionably world class rather than extremely good but not quite in the top drawer.

 

[BPM]

For the eye catching ball in hand stuff I'd probably agree, but not really elsewhere. In defence he's probably more of a stopper than a slicer in half, but still pretty effective.

That peak years Sarries trusted him from an early age also speaks volumes. They had some serious, experienced units in their back 5 and weren't prone to carrying passengers. That's club level but he was holding his own with internationals or top level seasoned club players.

Since when have I been one to focus on 'eye catching ball in hand stuff'? When it comes to locks, I don't care about that at all.

For such a huge, athletically gifted man, he just seems to lack a bit of the 'beast mode' he needs to be better than decent. It's entirely possible his heart condition was holding him back and we see him step up a year now that's sorted. I rate him. I just want a bit more before I consider him better than 'fine'.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

There is an argument that being 6'8 is awesome in rugby and being 6'0 - 6'4 is awesome for rugby but being 6'6 isn't big enough for lock and bit big for back row normally.

Although there are always exceptions to the rule and I might be 100% wrong.

 

[AngloScotsHybrid]

There is an argument that being 6'8 is awesome in rugby and being 6'0 - 6'4 is awesome for rugby but being 6'6 isn't big enough for lock and bit big for back row normally.

Although there are always exceptions to the rule and I might be 100% wrong.

6'6" is perfect for a lock. There have been many great locks that height