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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (candybum @ Jun 29 2009, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
SA Coach on the Burger incident.

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“I don’t think it should have been a card at all,†he said. “For me and for everybody, this is sport. This is what it is all about."[/b]
http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/?c=rugby&...p;jp=snojkfcwoj

Is he for real? surely he could have said something else? anything! Defending your players is one thing but geez way to make yourself look like a twat.
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It's probably the dumbest thing I've ever read a coach say.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (C A Iversen @ Jun 29 2009, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (candybum @ Jun 29 2009, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SA Coach on the Burger incident.

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“I don’t think it should have been a card at all,†he said. “For me and for everybody, this is sport. This is what it is all about."[/b]
http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/?c=rugby&...p;jp=snojkfcwoj

Is he for real? surely he could have said something else? anything! Defending your players is one thing but geez way to make yourself look like a twat.
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It's probably the dumbest thing I've ever read a coach say.
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He wanted to say something very Philosophical :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (candybum @ Jun 29 2009, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
SA Coach on the Burger incident.

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“I don’t think it should have been a card at all,†he said. “For me and for everybody, this is sport. This is what it is all about."[/b]
http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/?c=rugby&...p;jp=snojkfcwoj

Is he for real? surely he could have said something else? anything! Defending your players is one thing but geez way to make yourself look like a twat.
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In the space of 2 weeks, with 2 stupid comments he's undone 15 years of anti-racist work then condoned violence and thuggery.

A class act, that Peter de Villiers...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Jun 29 2009, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (candybum @ Jun 29 2009, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SA Coach on the Burger incident.

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“I don’t think it should have been a card at all,†he said. “For me and for everybody, this is sport. This is what it is all about."[/b]
http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/?c=rugby&...p;jp=snojkfcwoj

Is he for real? surely he could have said something else? anything! Defending your players is one thing but geez way to make yourself look like a twat.
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In the space of 2 weeks, with 2 stupid comments he's undone 15 years of anti-racist work then condoned violence and thuggery.

A class act, that Peter de Villiers...
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Well done to the South Africans on the series win, they came back superbly in the last 20 on Saturday and it was a case of seeing if we could just hang on. You could see how much it meant to them aswel which still proves the Lions are relevant.

However, many Lions fans feel a bit hard done by over the whole tour. Whether it be decisions on the field in both tests, the way the SA RFU priced the tickets and treated the Lions fans or your coach condoning the actions of cowardly act. It just leaves us all a bit angry and saddened.

Next week is a dead rubber sadly and if things may have gone our way it wouldnt have been. Still it will be hard to accept a 3-0 series defeat again.
 
8 weeks? What a f***ing joke for something which for all the world looks intentional. Once again highlighting how farcical Best's suspension was.
 
Absolutely shocking. Tarnished a fantastic contest, there wont be too many warm welcomes for SA in the Autumn.
 
The most amusing part was Best was 6-month banned for "accidental contact with the eye area", not gouging.

Then again, Burger didn't get done for an infraction involving and England and Wasps player when the citing officer (Jeff Probyn) is a lifelong Wasps man...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Jun 29 2009, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
The most amusing part was Best was 6-month banned for "accidental contact with the eye area", not gouging.

Then again, Burger didn't get done for an infraction involving and England and Wasps player when the citing officer (Jeff Probyn) is a lifelong Wasps man...[/b]

8 weeks isn't even the minimum ban for gouging which is the worst bit of it. How anyone can say it wasn't intentional is beyond me, judging from his hand position and pose there's absolutely no way it was accidental. It's on par with Hartley's - and I agreed with the 6 month ban there.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Muse_Cubed @ Jun 29 2009, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Jun 29 2009, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The most amusing part was Best was 6-month banned for "accidental contact with the eye area", not gouging.

Then again, Burger didn't get done for an infraction involving and England and Wasps player when the citing officer (Jeff Probyn) is a lifelong Wasps man...[/b]

8 weeks isn't even the minimum ban for gouging which is the worst bit of it. How anyone can say it wasn't intentional is beyond me, judging from his hand position and pose there's absolutely no way it was accidental. It's on par with Hartley's - and I agreed with the 6 month ban there.
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So finally what guys you need, to drive him away for 8 Months? :lol:
 
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Johannesburg â€" If Springbok coach Peter de Villiers had hoped Monday’s press conference at Montecasino here would steer a wide course from the Schalk Burger citing issue in the second Test against the British and Irish Lions, he was quickly thwarted.

Indeed, in another vintage display of maverick “Div-speakâ€, the national team’s senior mastermind was quickly holding court fierily on the issue -- despite prior notice to the well-attended briefing from SA Rugby officials that they had not yet had fullest opportunities to study the findings of the judicial officer in the procedures which saw bans of eight weeks and two weeks respectively against Burger and team-mate Bakkies Botha, and would comment more fully later.

But the travelling UK press corps were hardly going to let the matter rest, and quickly found willing bites to their bait from a belligerent De Villiers, remarkably still sticking to his view that Burger hadn’t even deserved a yellow card at Loftus.

First he was asked whether he would be prepared to categorically denounce dirty play in rugby, whether it were spear-tackling, biting, eye-gouging or other forms of skulduggery, as there appeared to have been a resurgence of such incidents worldwide in recent months.

“I’m against anything that’s against the spirit of the game,†he said. “We won’t go to the lows of being negative in a positive game.

We’ve got brilliant players in this country … they are world-class, most of them, and to try to even prepare them to do small things that belong outside in the bushveld … if we want to eye-gouge any lion we can go down to the bushveld as we normally do and eye-gouge them and see if they can out-run us and haul us in.

“But we will never, never encourage anybody to bring the game into disrepute. Schalk’s nature and character, if you know the man … he’s more physical than any player in the world but to go to that measures (sic) … he’ll never ever do it and I don’t think he did. But as mentioned we won’t discuss it here.â€

Yet De Villiers was really only warming to his soapbox. Had he not seen the television footage?

“I’m telling you, I’ve seen the footage, I’m not saying anything, then I go against what we decided (at this stage). I am still convinced there is nothing he (did) on purpose.

“For he himself, when he saw the footage … it was ‘yoh!’. But he never meant to go to anybody’s eye. We will wait for the report and then we can make a great (statement) to you guys.â€

Was he ducking the issue?

“I’m not. We’re working in a system. You (journalists) have no systems, you can work wherever you want to work. We will react when the report has been tabled.â€

De Villiers was asked whether he regretted, in hindsight, saying he didn’t believe the gouging incident was even worth a yellow card.

“You look at the footage properly and you know the man you’re working with, then you can see why I said it.â€

Had he spoken to Burger about the incident?

“We sat down at breakfast, we sat down last night until quarter past 12 waiting for what happened inside. He’s an honourable man.

When you take him away from rugby, he’s the best person to have around you.

“Rugby is a contact sport. So guys who can’t take it, make your decision. Why don’t we go to nearest ballet shop, get some nice tutus, get a great dancing show going, no eye-gouging, no tackling … and all enjoy it. But this game is about collisions. And the guy who wins that collision the hardest is the guy who I always will select.

“I would love the Lions supporters to honour our win. It was the best and hardest series I’ve seen in a while. This is a brilliant Lions team here. Stand up and take it on the chin and say ‘well done South Africa’ â€" like we did in 1997.â€

De Villiers was then asked by a visiting journalist what he thought about the fact that even the domestic media were branding him “the weakest link†in the series triumph.

“Everybody in life has an opinion. If I am the weakest link, then we are bloody strong!â€

Why did the perception appear to exist, though?

“I didn’t know about it and don’t have time to think about it. I know in myself I am a God-given talent … I know what I am, I don’t care a damn.â€[/b]

http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Rugby/Lio...Burger_grilling

Oh my god. I don't have any words left to say about our coach. He has lost it. Maybe he can get fired after he takes his knob out of Schalk Burger's ass, but i aint holding my breath...
 
PDV is still refusing to criticise, absolutely shameful stuff from the Head Coach. What an example to set for young players seeing an IRB Player of the Year gouge then the National Coach coming out in support saying its part of the game.

South African rugby has a lot to answer for.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Jun 29 2009, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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Johannesburg â€" If Springbok coach Peter de Villiers had hoped Monday’s press conference at Montecasino here would steer a wide course from the Schalk Burger citing issue in the second Test against the British and Irish Lions, he was quickly thwarted.

Indeed, in another vintage display of maverick “Div-speakâ€, the national team’s senior mastermind was quickly holding court fierily on the issue -- despite prior notice to the well-attended briefing from SA Rugby officials that they had not yet had fullest opportunities to study the findings of the judicial officer in the procedures which saw bans of eight weeks and two weeks respectively against Burger and team-mate Bakkies Botha, and would comment more fully later.

But the travelling UK press corps were hardly going to let the matter rest, and quickly found willing bites to their bait from a belligerent De Villiers, remarkably still sticking to his view that Burger hadn’t even deserved a yellow card at Loftus.

First he was asked whether he would be prepared to categorically denounce dirty play in rugby, whether it were spear-tackling, biting, eye-gouging or other forms of skulduggery, as there appeared to have been a resurgence of such incidents worldwide in recent months.

“I’m against anything that’s against the spirit of the game,†he said. “We won’t go to the lows of being negative in a positive game.

We’ve got brilliant players in this country … they are world-class, most of them, and to try to even prepare them to do small things that belong outside in the bushveld … if we want to eye-gouge any lion we can go down to the bushveld as we normally do and eye-gouge them and see if they can out-run us and haul us in.

“But we will never, never encourage anybody to bring the game into disrepute. Schalk’s nature and character, if you know the man … he’s more physical than any player in the world but to go to that measures (sic) … he’ll never ever do it and I don’t think he did. But as mentioned we won’t discuss it here.â€

Yet De Villiers was really only warming to his soapbox. Had he not seen the television footage?

“I’m telling you, I’ve seen the footage, I’m not saying anything, then I go against what we decided (at this stage). I am still convinced there is nothing he (did) on purpose.

“For he himself, when he saw the footage … it was ‘yoh!’. But he never meant to go to anybody’s eye. We will wait for the report and then we can make a great (statement) to you guys.â€

Was he ducking the issue?

“I’m not. We’re working in a system. You (journalists) have no systems, you can work wherever you want to work. We will react when the report has been tabled.â€

De Villiers was asked whether he regretted, in hindsight, saying he didn’t believe the gouging incident was even worth a yellow card.

“You look at the footage properly and you know the man you’re working with, then you can see why I said it.â€

Had he spoken to Burger about the incident?

“We sat down at breakfast, we sat down last night until quarter past 12 waiting for what happened inside. He’s an honourable man.

When you take him away from rugby, he’s the best person to have around you.

“Rugby is a contact sport. So guys who can’t take it, make your decision. Why don’t we go to nearest ballet shop, get some nice tutus, get a great dancing show going, no eye-gouging, no tackling … and all enjoy it. But this game is about collisions. And the guy who wins that collision the hardest is the guy who I always will select.

“I would love the Lions supporters to honour our win. It was the best and hardest series I’ve seen in a while. This is a brilliant Lions team here. Stand up and take it on the chin and say ‘well done South Africa’ â€" like we did in 1997.â€

De Villiers was then asked by a visiting journalist what he thought about the fact that even the domestic media were branding him “the weakest link†in the series triumph.

“Everybody in life has an opinion. If I am the weakest link, then we are bloody strong!â€

Why did the perception appear to exist, though?

“I didn’t know about it and don’t have time to think about it. I know in myself I am a God-given talent … I know what I am, I don’t care a damn.â€[/b]

http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Rugby/Lio...Burger_grilling

Oh my god. I don't have any words left to say about our coach. He has lost it. Maybe he can get fired after he takes his knob out of Schalk Burger's ass, but i aint holding my breath...
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well I guess Trainer's ratings are falling down

And what if he just wanted to defend a team star and not sticking his nose in Burger's ass?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Jun 29 2009, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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Johannesburg â€" If Springbok coach Peter de Villiers had hoped Monday’s press conference at Montecasino here would steer a wide course from the Schalk Burger citing issue in the second Test against the British and Irish Lions, he was quickly thwarted.

Indeed, in another vintage display of maverick “Div-speakâ€, the national team’s senior mastermind was quickly holding court fierily on the issue -- despite prior notice to the well-attended briefing from SA Rugby officials that they had not yet had fullest opportunities to study the findings of the judicial officer in the procedures which saw bans of eight weeks and two weeks respectively against Burger and team-mate Bakkies Botha, and would comment more fully later.

But the travelling UK press corps were hardly going to let the matter rest, and quickly found willing bites to their bait from a belligerent De Villiers, remarkably still sticking to his view that Burger hadn’t even deserved a yellow card at Loftus.

First he was asked whether he would be prepared to categorically denounce dirty play in rugby, whether it were spear-tackling, biting, eye-gouging or other forms of skulduggery, as there appeared to have been a resurgence of such incidents worldwide in recent months.

“I’m against anything that’s against the spirit of the game,†he said. “We won’t go to the lows of being negative in a positive game.

We’ve got brilliant players in this country … they are world-class, most of them, and to try to even prepare them to do small things that belong outside in the bushveld … if we want to eye-gouge any lion we can go down to the bushveld as we normally do and eye-gouge them and see if they can out-run us and haul us in.

“But we will never, never encourage anybody to bring the game into disrepute. Schalk’s nature and character, if you know the man … he’s more physical than any player in the world but to go to that measures (sic) … he’ll never ever do it and I don’t think he did. But as mentioned we won’t discuss it here.â€

Yet De Villiers was really only warming to his soapbox. Had he not seen the television footage?

“I’m telling you, I’ve seen the footage, I’m not saying anything, then I go against what we decided (at this stage). I am still convinced there is nothing he (did) on purpose.

“For he himself, when he saw the footage … it was ‘yoh!’. But he never meant to go to anybody’s eye. We will wait for the report and then we can make a great (statement) to you guys.â€

Was he ducking the issue?

“I’m not. We’re working in a system. You (journalists) have no systems, you can work wherever you want to work. We will react when the report has been tabled.â€

De Villiers was asked whether he regretted, in hindsight, saying he didn’t believe the gouging incident was even worth a yellow card.

“You look at the footage properly and you know the man you’re working with, then you can see why I said it.â€

Had he spoken to Burger about the incident?

“We sat down at breakfast, we sat down last night until quarter past 12 waiting for what happened inside. He’s an honourable man.

When you take him away from rugby, he’s the best person to have around you.

“Rugby is a contact sport. So guys who can’t take it, make your decision. Why don’t we go to nearest ballet shop, get some nice tutus, get a great dancing show going, no eye-gouging, no tackling … and all enjoy it. But this game is about collisions. And the guy who wins that collision the hardest is the guy who I always will select.

“I would love the Lions supporters to honour our win. It was the best and hardest series I’ve seen in a while. This is a brilliant Lions team here. Stand up and take it on the chin and say ‘well done South Africa’ â€" like we did in 1997.â€

De Villiers was then asked by a visiting journalist what he thought about the fact that even the domestic media were branding him “the weakest link†in the series triumph.

“Everybody in life has an opinion. If I am the weakest link, then we are bloody strong!â€

Why did the perception appear to exist, though?

“I didn’t know about it and don’t have time to think about it. I know in myself I am a God-given talent … I know what I am, I don’t care a damn.â€[/b]

http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Rugby/Lio...Burger_grilling

Oh my god. I don't have any words left to say about our coach. He has lost it. Maybe he can get fired after he takes his knob out of Schalk Burger's ass, but i aint holding my breath...
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Tim, remember your "Yes Brian..." clown sig?

You might want to make a "Yes PdV..." sig for Jer1cho...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Prestwick @ Jun 29 2009, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Tim, remember your "Yes Brian..." clown sig?

You might want to make a "Yes PdV..." sig for Jer1cho...[/b]

I never even won an award for that amazing effort!

Know what I'll be doing when I need a break from job hunting this week though...
 
P Divvy has not only acted like a dick on this incident but also made racists comments over Ricky Januarie. If he was a coach in any other country he would have been fired long time ago for bringing the game into disrepute.

Hell he got busted making a porno in a parking lot. His defense was that it was the whites trying to get him sacked and if he was fired he said "Give the game back to the whites they run the game anyway."
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sean43 @ Jun 30 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Absolutely shocking. Tarnished a fantastic contest, there wont be too many warm welcomes for SA in the Autumn.[/b]

SA have never been the most loved team in the NH so nothing new there then.
 
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