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Australia V Ireland, Saturday June 14

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Quinlan and Fitzgerald ruled out

Luke Fitzgerald is ruled out by an ankle injury
Alan Quinlan and Luke Fitzgerald have both been ruled out of the Ireland team for Saturday's Test against Australia in Melbourne.

Quinlan (thigh) and Fitzgerald (ankle) missed Saturday's defeat by the All Blacks because of injury and they will not recover in time for this weekend.

Ulster flanker Stephen Ferris has already been called into the squad as cover for Quinlan.

No replacement is being sought by the Ireland management for Fitzgerald.

Meanwhile, new Australia coach Robbie Deans believes the Wallabies will have to play a highly physical game if they are to beat Ireland.

Deans said he had been impressed by the Irish during their 21-11 defeat by the All Blacks in Wellington.

"The thing that was really impressive was Ireland's contact work, their collision work," Deans said.


"They were very physical, and we anticipate that it will be very similar this week."

Deans said Australia would gain vital knowledge about the Irish from assistant coach Jim Williams, who recently joined the Wallabies from newly crowned European Cup champions Munster, where he was forwards coach.

Seven of the eight members of the Irish pack that played against New Zealand were from Munster.


"Jim has got a really important role," Deans said.

"He's overseeing the coming together of the pack (and) I guess he's got an insight into Munster.

"There's probably a bit of banter flying already between him and his Munster boys.

"When you've got a close relationship like that it always adds a bit of spice so both parties will be wanting to prevail.

"Jim will draw on his knowledge just as they will draw on their knowledge of Jim."

Meanwhile, Ireland giant Tony Buckley claims his team are hungry to pounce on an Australia side still yet to play a game under Deans.

Buckley, who came on as a replacement for Marcus Horan in the 61st minute in Wellington, said he and his team-mates were "gutted" after throwing away a golden opportunity to beat New Zealand.

"We came within 10 points of a New Zealand team that we could have beaten," the 27-year-old said.

"We should have been much closer. I felt we were unlucky on the night.

"We will be looking at capitalising on those situations against Australia.

"Everybody will be looking to fix their mistakes... to build on what they did last weekend."

Buckley added that Ireland "really have to win" in Telstra Dome in Melbourne on Saturday.

The Irish have not beaten the Wallabies on their home soil since 1979.

"We were confident of pushing New Zealand. The ball was in our court, we could have - and should have - won it but we didn't. Hopefully against Australia now we can win it."
 
Shame about Fitzgerald, I am confident (even if some of you aren't) that Wallace is up to the job.
 
i will be at the game this saturday.... I'm a little nervous after seeing ireland agianst the all blacks and it being the wallabies first game under robbie deans.

I do hope the wallabies fire and beat ireland but i think it will be a close game. one thing is guaranteed and that is a dry game... the roof will be closed no doubt
 
Where is An Tarbh anyway? Making the match threads are usually his thing.

1.Horan
2.Flannery
3.Buckley
4.O'Callaghan
5.O'Connell
6.Leamy
7.Wallace
8.Heaslip
9.Stringer
10.O'Gara
11.Kearney
12.Wallace
13.O'Driscoll
14.Bowe
15.Murphy

16.Best
17.Hayes
18.O'Driscoll
19.Jennings
20.Reddan
21.Dempsey
22.Horgan

That's my team. Flannery did play badly on Saturday but in fairness to him it was his only bad performance of the season, and the line out didn't exactly improve when best came on. If we had a credible back up Loose head I'd play him but I'm sure Horan has learned his lesson and did play well the last day as well. I think Ireland need another line out option that players like Quinlan/Easterby offer but there isn't anybody. Reddan was shocking against NZ and hasn't impressed all season really. Horgan needs a kick up the whole as well.
 
All Blacks were really pushed by Ireland in the harsh conditions last week, but then again it was their first game together and they didn't exactly have their best side on the field either, so I'm still not sure if we should be worried or not. This weeks game will be played in dry conditions and with a very much new look Australia under the guidance of Robbie Deans. Robbie is apparently only concerned with the 'performance' and says that winning is secondary at this stage, so it will be interesting to see what kind of game plan they pull out.
 
The Australian team will be named tomorrow, but if the media reports are correct it'll look something like this -

1. Robinson
2. Moore
3. Dunning
4. Horwill
5. Sharpe
6. Elsom
7. Smith
8. Palu

9. Burgess/Cordingley
10. Giteau
11. Tuqiri
12. Barnes
13. Mortlock ©
14. Ashley-Cooper
15. Shepherd

I don't want to speculate on the reserves, and I hope Deans pulls some surprises there. There was speculation last week that Phil Waugh might not be on the bench as Deans might prefer not to have two openside flankers in the squad. I honestly don't think that will happen though. Would also love to see Ben Alexander on the bench instead of Baxter.

The only thing I dislike about the team right now is that there really isn't that much change from the pack that has been regularly pushed around in recent years. However, I don't think the Wallabies forwards shouldn't be troubled too much. Australia has the upper hand in the scrum, and if George Smith is on his game he'll frustrate the Irish. I was surprised to see Ireland's lineout crumble last week considering it's been one of the strongest aspects of their game. If they can get it together they can give Australia some trouble with Vickerman out. As for the backlines, the Wallabies should have the upper hand.

It might be a close match but I'll be shocked if the Wallabies lose.
 
Well, Peter Stringer and Rory Best have been added to the starting lineup for Ireland.

I 100% agree with Stringer's promotion, but Rory Best? Surely that can only benefit Australia in the lineout?
 
i'm just happy to see a live game of rugby in melbourne! [/b]
Reckon they'll fill the place up down there? I went to last years Bledisloe down there and was massively dissapointed that Australia's supposed "best sporting public" couldn't even pack out a Bledisloe match (there was about 70k of the 100k seats available and the kiwis outnumbered us!!!), especially after all the **** they give people in Sydney.
 
Reckon they'll fill the place up down there? I went to last years Bledisloe down there and was massively dissapointed that Australia's supposed "best sporting public" couldn't even pack out a Bledisloe match (there was about 70k of the 100k seats available and the kiwis outnumbered us!!!), especially after all the **** they give people in Sydney.[/b]
I came over for that from Perth, never actually met a Melbourne rugby fan when I was there though, I suppose the ones with the horrible new style Wallaby jersey gave them away?

"Best sporting public" if you're talking about AFL....
 
Ahahaha i remember that game, with the kiwi crowd in Australia. Made great television though, all those glum faces wearing black jerseys.
 
Ahahaha i remember that game, with the kiwi crowd in Australia. Made great television though, all those glum faces wearing black jerseys.[/b]
Alot of the relatives came over from Otago so I was a lone yellow jersey in a black crowd, funny seeing the day of the game all the kiwi supporters in pubs and chucking balls around the streets etc. and then the next day not a hint of black in sight. :p
 
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Reckon they'll fill the place up down there? I went to last years Bledisloe down there and was massively dissapointed that Australia's supposed "best sporting public" couldn't even pack out a Bledisloe match (there was about 70k of the 100k seats available and the kiwis outnumbered us!!!), especially after all the **** they give people in Sydney.[/b]
I came over for that from Perth, never actually met a Melbourne rugby fan when I was there though, I suppose the ones with the horrible new style Wallaby jersey gave them away?

"Best sporting public" if you're talking about AFL.... [/b][/quote]
Yeah, that's the thing though. They claim that ANY sporting event will sell out in Melbourne, and that's why they're "the world's sporting capital" :rolleyes: .
 
Yeah, that's the thing though. They claim that ANY sporting event will sell out in Melbourne, and that's why they're "the world's sporting capital" :rolleyes: .[/b]
I went to an AFL game at the MCG, Essendon v Carlton which had a bigger crowd then the Bledisloe I think....but I would understand the AFL fans not being about to get much out of other sports, with the amount of scoring of no particular value overall they would be shaped to be like goldfish.....soccer is the exception because of the large ethnic population, but I digress, the fact is the label is largely unfounded...we have a smaller population and at the time not many rugby fans but we managed to sell out South Africa v Australia about four years ago, and will do the same again this year I suspect...
 
yeah, it's always been all about AFL. however with the storm in good form, a lot of people have been jumping on board, and also the melbourne victory in the soccer. the melbourne victory have been pulling around 60k for their crowds which is crazy, however melbourne is populated with a lot of europeans.

the bledisloe cup crowd was shitful last year.... the match back in 1997 pulled an 100k crowd. back at the 2003 world cup, i went to a few games at telstra dome and the crowds were good, but there were a lot of visitors in the crowd.

i have a feeling, the crowd will be around 30-35k and i hope to see more gold than green.
 
On Topic : I have to say I am a big fan of Reddan, while our backline is performing well I think it's ok to play Stringer, but if they are weak attacking then we need more penetration, stringer is useless.
 
A good crowd better turn up! How much are tickets Insane?

Melbourne boasts impressive AFL crowds, plus an average of 26,000 for victory games, might of been more than 30,000 two seasons ago when they won it, but Storms been disapointing to say the least considering the amount of sucess the Storm have had.. When's the new rectangle stadium coming in Insane and what will its capacity be?
 
A good crowd better turn up! How much are tickets Insane?

Melbourne boasts impressive AFL crowds, plus an average of 26,000 for victory games, might of been more than 30,000 two seasons ago when they won it, but Storms been disapointing to say the least considering the amount of sucess the Storm have had.. When's the new rectangle stadium coming in Insane and what will its capacity be? [/b]

i'm in the cheapseats at $39, but they range up to around $80.

not sure when the new stadium will be built. it will be next door to olympic park, and to be honest i think the storm crowd suffer because olympic park is really sub standard compared to the other stadiums we have down here.
 
Good luck Ireland, i think they have a great chance as last year a depleted Wales also nearly won in Australia. Will be tough but they have a better chance this week than last as they will be able to match the Aussie pack.
 
Good luck Ireland, i think they have a great chance as last year a depleted Wales also nearly won in Australia. Will be tough but they have a better chance this week than last as they will be able to match the Aussie pack.
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Aussie Robbie, end of story.
 
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