Australia V Ireland, Saturday June 14

[BLR]

Who was the dick-head gay patting Burgess on the head? Seriously a ****le is always good to put someone off their game, yet stroking someone's hair? Whoever he is I hope he's enjoying his fourth loss in a row and 30 years of not winning in Australia [/b]

Harden up, that was hillarious, rugby is for fun remember.

Hynes was brilliant, Tuqiri is too slow and doesn't know the meaning of 'position', often playing in the centres. Shepherd was dissappointing, I don't know if he didn't get into it or just didn't get passed the ball but he didn't stuff up but wasn't fantastic, not the performance to show selectors he should be the permanent 15.

Sharpey is past it, looked like he was dead on the pitch from the first 5 minutes and finally the scrum is rubbish, needs a real overhaul....

Pity Cross wasn't given a run, ah well, it was never in doubt.

and Ireland probably deserved a penalty try when Shepherd was isolated in front of the line... but generally the team with the ball was given lenience...

Oh, and the scrum is still crap... Baxter shouldn't be playing professional rugby etc. etc.
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1. The Irish player went to pick up the ball but he didn't get a good grip and it slipped out of his hands, he stuffed it up himself.

2. The scrum was crap before Baxter came on....

 

[Maccaweeny]

Pfft harden up because I think stroking someone's hair is gay? Seriously if Tuqiri doesn't know the meaning of 'position' you don't know the meaning of 'irony'

 

[BLR]

Pfft harden up because I think stroking someone's hair is gay? Seriously if Tuqiri doesn't know the meaning of 'position' you don't know the meaning of 'irony'
[/b]

He was patting the bloke on the head to be annoying and to put him off, if that is classified as stroking then I am a monkeys uncle.

 

[Fushitsusha]

1. The Irish player went to pick up the ball but he didn't get a good grip and it slipped out of his hands, he stuffed it up himself.

2. The scrum was crap before Baxter came on....
[/b]

1. Because Shepherd was holding on... anyways, it should've been an Irish penalty at the least...

2. It was crap before, but Baxter shouldn't even be on the bench... in the squad... in Australia A etc. etc. rant rant rant...

 

[BLR]

1. Because Shepherd was holding on... anyways, it should've been an Irish penalty at the least...
[/b]

Perhaps, but the Irish player had his hands on the ball, both hands, and as he was about to dive over to the line it slipped out of his hands, he bottled it...

 

[Fushitsusha]

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1. Because Shepherd was holding on... anyways, it should've been an Irish penalty at the least...
[/b]

Perhaps, but the Irish player had his hands on the ball, both hands, and as he was about to dive over to the line it slipped out of his hands, he bottled it...
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If Shepherd had've released it would've been a certain try... therefore = penalty...

Anyways, back to the Wallabies... I'd keep the same XV for the next test, but we're seeing a repeat of recent years where certain players just don't stand up at an international level...

 

[Maccaweeny]

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Pfft harden up because I think stroking someone's hair is gay? Seriously if Tuqiri doesn't know the meaning of 'position' you don't know the meaning of 'irony'
[/b]

He was patting the bloke on the head to be annoying and to put him off, if that is classified as stroking then I am a monkeys uncle. [/b][/quote]



Oh so stroking someone on the head (i.e applying light amount of force) is gay while patting (like you do your Chihuahua) is manly and an accepted tactic in rugby? I know it was to put Burgess off, next time I want the blatantly obvious i'll ask you.



I guess i've learnt something today, next match of rugby i play i'll start 'patting' people on the head because it's serious business and totally not gay. If anyone doesn't like me patting them on the head, then they just need to harden the f- up, rugby obviously wasn't for them.

 

[BLR]

If Shepherd had've released it would've been a certain try... therefore = penalty...[/b]

So you expect Shepherd to get his hands, put it in the air and say, go for it, Shepherd did what any player would do who wanted to give more time for his defence. He kept the ball close to him with a hand on it yet didn't hold onto it, if he did so when the Irish player went to pick it up he would have had to struggle with Shepherd on the ground and a penalty try would have been awarded, there was no struggle from Shepherd on the ground when the Irish player went to play the ball, the Irish players simply stuffed it up....that's why the penalty was not awarded.

I guess i've learnt something today, next match of rugby i play i'll start 'patting' people on the head because it's serious business and totally not gay. If anyone doesn't like me patting them on the head, then they just need to harden the f- up, rugby obviously wasn't for them.[/b]

As long as you are doing it to put someone off and not to feel thier smooth male hair against your hand, that's where it gets a bit gay....getting patted on the head is one of the most degrading and annoying things you can do to a person and a great way to rile someone up so they can make mistakes....

 

[rsea]

Shep did release. Irish player did collect it then got stripped by Tuqiri end of story.

Bit hard to take positives from the scrum

Thought Hynes was solid as was Barnes.
Giteaus flick to Horwill was magic

 

[Fushitsusha]

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If Shepherd had've released it would've been a certain try... therefore = penalty...[/b]

So you expect Shepherd to get his hands, put it in the air and say, go for it, Shepherd did what any player would do who wanted to give more time for his defence. He kept the ball close to him with a hand on it yet didn't hold onto it, if he did so when the Irish player went to pick it up he would have had to struggle with Shepherd on the ground and a penalty try would have been awarded, there was no struggle from Shepherd on the ground when the Irish player went to play the ball, the Irish players simply stuffed it up....that's why the penalty was not awarded.
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Ummm.... what? You've basically helped prove my point...

Once Shepherd was tackled on the ground he must release the ball immediately... it's as simple as that...

I agree with everything he did from a Wallaby standpoint... but it still should've been a penatly (or possible yellow card), but the referee was playing favourites with the attacking team all game...

It wasn't as if the Irish fumbled the ball in their immediate attempt to snatch it... they TRIED to take the ball and fumbled it in the process due to the tackled player infringing...

 

[rsea]

It wasn't as if the Irish fumbled the ball in their immediate attempt to snatch it... they TRIED to take the ball and fumbled it in the process due to the tackled player infringing...
[/b]

It was a clean strip by Tuqiri man. Theirs no way your ever going to get a perfectly clean ball in that situation but from what I saw Shep didn't impede to badly, he placed it in a manner that made collect more difficult which is completely legal. Tuqiri did a great job

 

[ozzy]

So what do the Aussies here think of Dingo Deans after that performance? I know it has only been one game, but that was enough for the Kiwis to crucify Henry. Don't hold back now.

 

[Fushitsusha]

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It wasn't as if the Irish fumbled the ball in their immediate attempt to snatch it... they TRIED to take the ball and fumbled it in the process due to the tackled player infringing...
[/b]

It was a clean strip by Tuqiri man. Theirs no way your ever going to get a perfectly clean ball in that situation but from what I saw Shep didn't impede to badly. Tuqiri did a great job
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Que?

Tuqiri got his hands on the ball well after TWO Irish players attempted to pinch the ball off the tackled player... Tuqir getting his hands on the ball is completely irrelevant...

Australia was EXTREMELY lucky... maybe we'll start hearing less about Robbie Deans and Luke Burgess being the second comings of Jesus and Mohammad? Probably not...

So what do the Aussies here think of Dingo Deans after that performance? I know it has only been one game, but that was enough for the Kiwis to crucify Henry. Don't hold back now.
[/b]

Nah... NZ are still the best in the world... no doubt...

The Australian forwards still don't know how to work as a pack and if they'd have played England again they would've been rolled...

 

[Maccaweeny]

Deans has had two weeks with the team, a team that he did not have total control over selecting.

Graham Henry has been around for years, we don't know what to expect from Deans. I'll be reserving my judgements for a few months time.


Edit: anyone else think Mortlock was ordinary? Cross should have had a run

 

[rsea]

Yeh he was absent and after 3 weeks off I'm not surprised but if I were Deans I would've been looking for a risk free environment to pull of my Captain and that didn't happen. I thought Mumm might've had more of an impact replacing Elsom. I was impressed with how he played blindside while Elsom was out for the Tahs

 

[shazbooger]

Australia scored two fantastic tries from two opportunites created for Australia. Outside of that though they didnt really offer anything going forward. Defensively they were immense but you gotta think they will struggle if they dont improve dramatically.

Ireland lacked anything resembling creativity. Trying too much on 2nd and 3rd phase ball and seemed to panic with the ball in broken play.

The referee's interpretation of the scrum was comical. Austrailia were let off the hook twice on their own line with two mystifying decisions. Constantly looking to Chris white on the touchline for advice even though he was standing right in front of the problem.

 

[MunsterMan]

Agreed. The penalty he gave against Hayes was laughable. He had a bad all round game IMO. Absolutely shocking, and I thought Chris White was bad last week.

It's a shame BOD's pass didn't reach Wallace (who was excellent) and Stringer shouldn't have taken that quick tap :wall:

Wallabys deserving winners though.

 

[shazbooger]

Save the arrogant faggotry for when you're winning. [/b]

Who was the dick-head gay patting Burgess on the head? [/b]

 

[Maccaweeny]

<div class='quotemain'> Save the arrogant faggotry for when you're winning. [/b]

Who was the dick-head gay patting Burgess on the head? [/b]

[/b][/quote]

Are we really still harping on about this?

So let me get this straight, I describe (on the internet) a player's actions insofar as lightly touching another player's hair during a rugby match as 'gay', and therefore, by implication, I'm a homophobe; no doubt possessing a deep-seated insecurity towards my own sexual orientation?

See, the problem is, this doesn't really add up. Both the terms that you have taken offence to (faggotry, gay pat/tap) have been used on this forum before, sometimes repetitively. It strikes me as somewhat odd, that it is in this circumstance that you have decided to express your feelings of indignation. See, I think there is a significant possibility that it's not my use of the words 'gay' or '******[ry]' that's got your knickers in a knot, but the fact that I denigrated an Irish player with such words, and then continued to criticise Ireland's record. Just maybe.

Then again, this could all be mere speculation. Who knows, maybe you feel yourself obliged to improve the maturity of expression used over the inter-webz, perhaps you have always been a dedicated gay-rights advocate, to the extent that internet-memes fill you with righteous fury. I guess I'll never know.

 

[I cant think of a username]

Dissappointing from Ireland again today, like last week if we'd have won, it wouldn't have been deserved. The pack were alright, Leamy was excellent, O'Connell could have been better and Heaslip was good.. for a Leinster player..



In the backs Stringer was poor, O'Gara tried to get things going, Paddy proved once again why he shouldn't be playing professional rugby, O'Driscoll is a shadow of what he was, Bowe was ok and Kearney got run over for a try and just patted Horwill on the back for the second, but of course because he's a leinster muppet he'll get an 8 or 9 in the paper tomorrow. Oh and Horgan could have been alot better.



Matt Giteau, is arguably the best back in the world. An Aussie resurgence is on the cards I think