A Political Thread

[Which Tyler]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158300401784204&id=512179203

Tonight the Minneapolis Police Department
Opened fire on our first aid station with no regard for the wounded people we had inside.

We were treating the 100% PEACEFUL protestors adults and teens who had come in with rubber bullet wounds, falls, scrapes and gashes, and mace/tear gas exposure when they marched in and began firing at us.

We put our hands up.
We shouted that we were first aid and were trying to help injured
We shouted we had hurt people inside that could not walk.
Nurses, Medics, EMTs walked out in front and Identfied themselves.

They fired gas, paint, and rubber bullets into us like it was Call of Duty.
I was hit multiple times with my hands up before it became to much to take and I had to run with everyone else.

A young man who had hurt his leg and couldn't run was almost trampled by people
fleeing the shots.
Some medics and myself grabbed him, put him in a wheeled office chair and started running him out of the #firstaid station while they fired rubber bullets into my back.

We got him into a random car as gas and more bullets rained down on us. I was pulled away by the crowd as a van full of cops came through and began shooting at us as we fled.

More gas
More rubber bullets

I ran as fast as I could until the finally stopped chasing us.
Finding my way to a friends basement nearby where the rest of my team had fled to.

While we hid
A young couple was also trying to leave to protests.
They turned a corner and the police officers hit them with their high powered flash light and then shot this girl directly in the face.

Random protestors formed a shield around them as the young man picked her up and ran.
By the sheer grace of God they managed to stumble to the door of the place we were hiding in and were rushed down to the basement.

We frantically cleared a dirty laundry table as our AMAZING, FANTASTIC, BRAVE, SELFLESS, SUPERWOMAN Nurse (Ashley Huber who is a straight up medical GODESS) scavenged all the supplies we had managed to keep on us to treat this girl the best she could and probably saved her eye.

We are now huddled in the dark
Waiting for curfew to lift to get her the further help she needs
Because not a living soul in this probably traumatized group of civilians is going to call 911
After ambulances have repeatedly ignored our calls and the police are the ones who shot the small unarmed girl in the first place.
(EDIT: even if we wanted to try and get her to the hospital ourselves the Police SLASHED THE TIRES OF THE TRUCK WE USED TO GET HERE)

So while I wait for sunrise
I would like to let everybody know
That if you open your mouth about how "those people" need to peacefully protest
Covid-19 or not
I'm going to get into your personal space.

MY team
Were warriors for justice tonight
The Minneapolis, police department
Shot a small brown skinned girl in the face because she was outside and upset that they murdered a black in broad day light in front of people begging them to stop.

Also this:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10224437054020569&id=1432965442

 

[Johnny Storm]

The problem is that justice hasn't taken its course in the vast majority of cases. Hell the cop in question has previous (as most do) and had walked free. However yes, the riots now are nothing to do with protesting the killing, this is criminals who are using the protests as cover for their actions. These riots do next to nothing to change the attitude of the elite for the better and only harm the local community. Generally you don't **** on your own doorstep nor do you carry out wanton destruction where you live. It lends credence to the claim those causing the violence and destruction are from out of town.

Just like during the British riots of 2011 (also caused by the killing of a black man by police) the protests are hijacked by anarchists who loot and destroy property. It is quite difficult to keep protests peaceful.

 

[Amiga500]

America's power comes from it's money and it's military.

America's power comes from the petrodollar.

When the rest of the world decides to deal in Euro (like Saddam Hussein did before Dubya decided to invade him[1]) or the Yen, then the US is f**ked. No more big deficits (which are used to fund their military)[2][3].


[1]https://edition.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/meast/10/30/iraq.un.euro.reut/
[2]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...2020-budget-watchdog-group-says-idUSKCN21V1TA
[3]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/US_National_Debt.png

 

[Amiga500]

It's all bull a crap cop went over the top killed a crook without need , instead of letting justice take its course US has riots.
US to me at present is a country divided mainly by leaders or lack of them

Nothing much to say apart from which river did you come up in a bubble?

 

[Amiga500]

Of course not was a cop in miners strike

That explains an awful lot you grade A wa...

 

[Amiga500]

"Protest peacefully" is just code for protest in a way that is not seen, heard or have any impact whatsoever.

Yep.

When peaceful protests are ignored and you remove a peaceful means for a people to invoke action on their legitimate concerns, it can only lead to violence.

 

[Amiga500]

Just like during the British riots of 2011 (also caused by the killing of a black man by police) the protests are hijacked by anarchists who loot and destroy property. It is quite difficult to keep protests peaceful.

Its very hard to keep protests peaceful whenever peaceful protests are completely ignored by the political system.

When was the last time a peaceful protest had an effect on government policy anywhere in the Western world outside France?

 

[ncurd]

Its very hard to keep protests peaceful whenever peaceful protests are completely ignored by the political system.

When was the last time a peaceful protest had an effect on government policy anywhere in the Western world outside France?

Protests are peaceful in France?

But aye you look at the massive march for Europe events in the UK some of the largest protests seen in this country and for the most part absolutely peaceful. Zero difference still aiming towards an extreme version of Brexit.

 

[Amiga500]

Protests are peaceful in France?

Some of them are - and the French government knows what direction they can quickly go if they don't pay attention.

But aye you look at the massive march for Europe events in the UK some of the largest protests seen in this country and for the most part absolutely peaceful. Zero difference still aiming towards an extreme version of Brexit.

Its quite obvious peaceful protests are a waste of time.

Indeed, it could be postulated that violent protests are almost as much a waste of time unless the violence was focussed.

Monarchs tend to ignore the peasants until their head is on a guillotine.

 

[Amiga500]

But aye you look at the massive march for Europe events in the UK some of the largest protests seen in this country and for the most part absolutely peaceful. Zero difference still aiming towards an extreme version of Brexit.

I was actually thinking of the Iraq war protests as a better example as at least the Brexit crowd could point to the referendum - regardless of how dodgy it was.

 

[ncurd]

I was actually thinking of the Iraq war protests as a better example as at least the Brexit crowd could point to the referendum - regardless of how dodgy it was.

Public support was generally in favour of Iraq if I remember correctly. Brexit according to poll may have been on the side of the public view (albeit quite complicated).

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Watched the documentary LA 92 last night.
Very interesting, all live film from the time so lacking in description but very immersive.

Very eerie watching it with the riots today.
Whilst not as large in scale as todays riot, it certainly seemed to be on a whole other level in terms of violence

 

[Amiga500]

Public support was generally in favour of Iraq if I remember correctly. Brexit according to poll may have been on the side of the public view (albeit quite complicated).

It was anything but!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_the_War_Coalition


Anyone with a few brain cells to rub together knew the US fabricated "evidence" was a crock of sh!te and that the UK should never have got involved. Sure Colin Powell presented a video of a plane dumping fuel as "smoking gun" evidence of chemical weapons ffs.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2015/06/03/remembering-iraq

according to this. A majority in the UK did support the war. Don't revise history to make yourself look better. The US government lied about it in order to obtain the support of their people and their ally's people. It's okay to admit that we all got fooled.

 

[ncurd]

It was anything but!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_the_War_Coalition


Anyone with a few brain cells to rub together knew the US fabricated "evidence" was a crock of sh!te and that the UK should never have got involved. Sure Colin Powell presented a video of a plane dumping fuel as "smoking gun" evidence of chemical weapons ffs.

I don't know what that link is suppose to prove....

This is more interesting read on the matter
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...t-at-the-time-we-did-support-it-10300854.html

 

[ncurd]

My perspective though was not many people supported it on the grounds they had WMD I don't think anybody really bought, a bit like the 350m bus issue with Brexit.

I think most people saw the man Saddam Hussein was and agreed he shouldn't be in charge of a nation and should be removed.

People do like the gaslight themselves though.

 

[duncanb]

That explains an awful lot you grade A wa...

lol

 

[duncanb]

Nothing much to say apart from which river did you come up in a bubble?

I bet your such a bag of fun as anyone who has another opinion to yours knows nothing.
How to manage your own arguments with yourself in a closed room.
Birmingham Aston in 60s was my breeding ground as a white kid all my friends were West Indies 2and generation.
My best mates family whenever I went round called me Gary's white n#$%@r.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Watched the documentary LA 92 last night.
Very interesting, all live film from the time so lacking in description but very immersive.

Very eerie watching it with the riots today.
Whilst not as large in scale as todays riot, it certainly seemed to be on a whole other level in terms of violence

Rodney King getting beaten up by police. yeah i remember it and the ensuing riots. Only a kid at the time, but remember my sister got so incensed with the injustice she wanted to join the rioters. yes, she was also only young at the time too. Doesn't stop me ribbing her about it now though.

But seriously, the riots and injustice is nothing new if you look back through American history and the civil war, civil rights movement. Those are the two stains on the American psyche: Race and Guns.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Numerous reports and videos showing police firing on reporters, medical workers and people on their own private land. All the arseholes in the police are now using the riots to get their dose of a power trip. Violence against protesters isn't that unheard of but the level to which media and medical staff are being attacked is new. The USA seriously needs to have a good look at the mental profile of many of their officers as many seem to be bordering on psychopathic tendencies.

Trump declares the media the enemy of the people, advocates increased police violence and now we are seeing this in numerous places across the country. That's not a coincidence.