A Political Thread

[truthteller]

Reese-Moggs investment firm made £103m profit in the last 5 years and he's paid a whopping £0 in tax on it.

Man of the people.

hes a rich powerful man born with a slver spoon up his backside...however the reason he pays so little tax is a combination of corporate tax loopholes allowed by the EU

 

[truthteller]

Reese-Moggs investment firm made £103m profit in the last 5 years and he's paid a whopping £0 in tax on it.

Man of the people.

hes a rich powerful man born with a slver spoon up his backside...however the reason he pays so little tax is a combination of corporate tax loopholes allowed by the EU

Because the 'media' want Brexit. His complete ineffectiveness plays into their hands, they don't want a competent Labour leader. Someone like Yvette Cooper would wipe the floor with this Tory mess.

lol cooper? shes a joke. totally unelectable

 

[ncurd]

bbc are anti brexit

Yeah thats why everyone on the remain side calls them the Brexit Broadcasting Company.....reality is they are relativelty unbiased you can tell because both sides accuse them of bias.

 

[ncurd]

hes a rich powerful man born with a slver spoon up his backside...however the reason he pays so little tax is a combination of corporate tax loopholes allowed by the EU

And he wants the UK to become an even greater tax haven....

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

How's British Steel doing?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Yeah thats why everyone on the remain side calls them the Brexit Broadcasting Company.....reality is they are relativelty unbiased you can tell because both sides accuse them of bias.

The way they treated the speaker being an example.

 

[General Melchett]

Because the 'media' want Brexit. His complete ineffectiveness plays into their hands, they don't want a competent Labour leader. Someone like Yvette Cooper would wipe the floor with this Tory mess.

I'd say the mainstream TV channels like BBC1 and Skynews are anti-Brexit. In fact, the BBC has become renowned for using the phrase 'in spite of Brexit' or 'despite Brexit'. Papers like the Sun are a different story but I guess pro-Brexit nationalistic rhetoric will appeal to their 'readers'.

 

[General Melchett]

hes a rich powerful man born with a slver spoon up his backside...however the reason he pays so little tax is a combination of corporate tax loopholes allowed by the EU

I guess those are the same loopholes which resulted in the EU ordering Apple to repay EUR 13bn in corporation taxes back to Ireland.

If anything the EU are anti-tax haven and have been pressing certain countries like Ireland to raise it's corporation tax.

 

[ncurd]

I'd say the mainstream TV channels like BBC1 and Skynews are anti-Brexit. In fact, the BBC has become renowned for using the phrase 'in spite of Brexit' or 'despite Brexit'. Papers like the Sun are a different story but I guess pro-Brexit nationalistic rhetoric will appeal to their 'readers'.

I'd say Sky News are definitely pro-Brexit I've lost track of how often I've watched them and they just ahve a bunch of Brexiteers agreeing with one another. Both are equally bad at actually asking people to prove anything they actually say.

As Tigs points out the way the BBC treated the speaker can hardly be called anti-Brexit (although I think they were just shifting for a reaction and thus a scoop rather than broadcasting bias).

The language you state also does not necessarily mean bias it depends whether thats an opinion giver saying it or being reported as fact. If it is being reported as fact it needs to be proven that it is such.

 

[Which Tyler]

Well...
So no deal won't happen without parliamentary approval, and is still the default absent parliamentary approval...
We'll get indicative votes (on Wednesday?), but any indications will be ignored by government... Lucky were taking back control isn't it!
IF we get a second referendum, the result will be ignored (unless it agrees with Theresa)...

Oh yes, she still believes in what she said on Wednesday evening

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Channel 4 is where I get most of my news about it, they've just taken the hard stance that everyone involved in government on either side is an avid fan of licking windows. It's great!

 

[General Melchett]

I'd say Sky News are definitely pro-Brexit I've lost track of how often I've watched them and they just ahve a bunch of Brexiteers agreeing with one another. Both are equally bad at actually asking people to prove anything they actually say.

As Tigs points out the way the BBC treated the speaker can hardly be called anti-Brexit (although I think they were just shifting for a reaction and thus a scoop rather than broadcasting bias).

The language you state also does not necessarily mean bias it depends whether thats an opinion giver saying it or being reported as fact. If it is being reported as fact it needs to be proven that it is such.

I have watched SkyNews quite a bit over the last few months and they often pit one Brexiteer guest against a Remainer. I have also seen their presenters grill both Brexiteers and Remainers. If there is a bias it's nowhere near as blatant as the likes of the Sun. The BBC are renowned for being pro-Tory as opposed to pro-Remain and the vast majority of Tory MPs are/were pro-Remain. From what I have seen I haven't detected any pro-Brexit bias. I have rarely seen Brexit being reported as a positive thing.

A good indicator of pro-Brexit bias is how much coverage Farage and JRM get and I don't see them on BBC or Sky that often. If you watch CNN the level of bias towards the democrats is staggering. I'd say that neither Sky nor the BBC are in the same league.

 

[ncurd]

I have no idea what the goverments plan is.....I can't believe we are this rudderless. I mean I can understand the goverment wants to be in charge but this is ridculous.

 

[ncurd]

A good indicator of pro-Brexit bias is how much coverage Farage and JRM get and I don't see them on BBC or Sky that often. If you watch CNN the level of bias towards the democrats is staggering. I'd say that neither Sky nor the BBC are in the same league.

Well Farage and JRM should actually be confined to what they actually nobodies. Its their over inflation due to actual support that led to their growing support in the first place.

And yes Sky and BBC are actually good when compared to American outlets. When people yell at them for bias I wonder if people actually know what bias actually looks like.

 

[Which Tyler]

I have no idea what the goverments plan is.....I can't believe we are this rudderless. I mean I can understand the goverment wants to be in charge but this is ridculous.

Keep the house divided enough that we end up with no (comfortable) agreement by April 9th, then MV3 with the can well and truly kicked down the road.

In the short term, allow indicative votes, but do their best to scupper them.
Potentially allow a vote on a second referendum, but do their best to scupper it.
Tell everyone that her own incompetence is Corbyn's fault.
Double down on literally anything she is criticised for.

 

[ncurd]

Keep the house divided enough that we end up with no (comfortable) agreement by April 9th, then MV3 with the can well and truly kicked down the road.

In the short term, allow indicative votes, but do their best to scupper them.
Potentially allow a vote on a second referendum, but do their best to scupper it.
Tell everyone that her own incompetence is Corbyn's fault.
Double down on literally anything she is criticised for.

Yeah okay but I've idea why they think it will succeed...

 

[Which Tyler]

Yeah okay but I've idea why they think it will succeed...

It very well might, been though it really shouldn't.

In normal times, both our PM and US's president wouldnhave resigned half a dozen times by now

 

[General Melchett]

Well Farage and JRM should actually be confined to what they actually nobodies. Its their over inflation due to actual support that led to their growing support in the first place.

And yes Sky and BBC are actually good when compared to American outlets. When people yell at them for bias I wonder if people actually know what bias actually looks like.

Agreed. On the basis that they have no experience in Government and have no intention of seeking to govern and make a difference, I would not give Farage or JRM the time of day let alone any media coverage. Sadly, media outlets think they boost ratings and as a result give them the platform they crave.

 

[Amiga500]

Yeah thats why everyone on the remain side calls them the Brexit Broadcasting Company.....reality is they are relativelty unbiased you can tell because both sides accuse them of bias.

Like a referee

When everyone is calling them a blind c**t - they've probably done all right[1].


[1]Unless they are George Clancy, in which case both sides are probably right.

 

[ncurd]

Watching BBC Parliament, christ Oliver Letwin is doing the kind of leadership May should be showing right now.