Rubbish. They will always find a reason to hate. If you think pulling all western military forces out of the Middle East your very naive.This has nothing to do with wars in the Middle East and everything to do with ideology. How many middle eastern nations were being bombed before 9/11? This is about a religious mindset that doesn't believe in our way of life driven in the most part by Saudi teachings that we as a nation allowed into the mosques here.
I'm being naive?
Look at what you've written TS. You could have lifted that word for word out of the Mail or the Telegraph and the Sun. All supporters of the status quo that will continue to bring us a production line of more attacks against the civilian population here in the UK and other western european countries.
What we are doing is creating terrorists, not stopping them.
We need to change what we are doing to get a long term outcome for safety inside our own borders.
Start asking some questions.... Why is the US 4th fleet permanently parked in the Persian Gulf?
Is it a convenient parking spot ?
Is it for the weather?
Are they having BBQ's with their Iranian counterparts?
Or is it the key military player controlling the flow of oil from Iraq through the Persian Gulf, in particular through the hotly contrsted Strait of Hormuz, and around the horn of Arabia, up the Red Sea, through the Suez canal and across the Mediterranean until going passed Gibraltar then it 's a straight run to Houston to unload and start the return journey.
America has an economy that has built it's wealth on a transport system heavily dependent on fossil fuels at a low price.
Cheap gas is essential for the US public. It wins and loses elections.
I say... Let America do their own dirty work... or, is it necessary for the UK to be involved so they can maintain a buyers banquet for UK 'security systems' at the Saudi and Bahrainian tables?
There's always a catch where money's involved.
Regarding hate, people don't 'hate' other people for no apparent reason.
Jealousy doesn't sustain hate for longer than a half an hour.
There's always a reason.
Under our capitalist system the easiest and most often accurate way of finding the answer is to?...
Follow the money.
Hate requires way too much energy to keep running, you need something major of a negative nature to occur in your life to keep a hate going.
Who is doing the bombing in the middle east over the last 55-60 years?
That would be Israel, backed by the key players in NATO, but in recent decades fundamentally the Americans.
America has not been shy to kill off a few hundred thousand Arabs and Iraqi's when they get in the way. The numbers for civilian deaths in Iraq from the Blair/Bush tag team is specified at around 116.000 by the Telegraph and around 650.000 by Lancet Medical journal, I daresay the truth is somewhere in between.
It's in the hundreds of thousands.
Just the civilian deaths, in Iraq only, from the second Gulf War.
How many families is that TS?
How many children?
How much murder and outrage do you need to create an environment for terrorists to evolve and grow?
IS did not exist in Libya until Gaddafi was forcibly removed by British Bombers who destroyed infrastructure and murdered civilians, or in Iraq before Saddam Hussein was hooked outta there.
They are there now.
The Manchester bomber was a Libyan Brit (and a demented git) he evolved from the carnage, lawlessness and mayhem left behind by David Camerons failed attempt at statesmanship.
The blood of the innocents here in the UK is firmly on the hands of UK foreign policy.
You don't get the 'twisted religious mindset' without having an environment of oppression from an aggressor.
America has led the aggression and the British and French poodles have followed suit.
Your comment on ideology exhibits nothing historical.
A thousand years ago westerners, Christians, were the sworn enemy of Islam. Destroying the Infidel on a religious Jihad was a holy and desirable course of action.
A proud way to die and join Allah etc
The ideology is as old as organised society.
There is nothing even remotely new about the IS ideology.
Fanatical zealots.
How many decades did England suffer bombings from the IRA?
It happened until there was a change in how to approach the problem that didn't involve confrontation and oppression.
America isn't going to stop exploiting Iraq et al, so I say, lets leave them to do their own dirty work.
Take ourselves out of the picture and watch the attacks come to a grinding halt.
Much like the IRA bombings.
The Irish didn't want to destroy the British way of life, they just wanted to be left alone.
When we left them alone they quickly came to behave themslves.
