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Anyone from TRF at the Fyre Festival......
I'd bloody hope not.
It's a bit like when Tumblr users tried to organise a convention a few years ago called Dashcon and they weren't able to pay anyone, had attendees donate to keep the even afloat, had their main draw (Welcome to Night Vale Podcast (big fan)) cancel because of no money and to make it up to attendees the organisers offered everyone an extra hour in this tiny ball pit in a cavernous room someone had already ****** in.
Events for tools like the ones who pay up to 10 grand to see Blink 182 and sleep in a yurt, going badly makes me really happy.
 
Yeah the 'You paid thousands to see a festival headlined by Kendall Jenner, so you kinda had it coming' memorial thread. Rest in Yurts.
 
Teresa May doesn't want to front up to Corbyn on the box.
That is gutless.
She is miles ahead in the media polls and she's always talking about how Corbyn and Labour are dog tucker (and they probably are) yet she hasn't got the courage to front him up in a debate on the box.
Why?
She actively avoids confrontation. Most likely a decision encouraged by her management and 'spin' team.
She can only bully from a position of strength.
She's a weak speaker when it comes to debating outside of pre-written sound bytes and gets flustered when she has to think on her feet.

It's a shame for democracy because after listening to a Scottish sheila MP on Radio 4 from the SNP whose name I cannot recall, it was interesting to be reminded what happened when Thatcher was in for too long.
The cuts that created a plethora of homeless in the 80's. The long waits on the NHS for surgeries and dental appointments. The endless demonstrations and civil unrest. Since Cameron came in the number of food banks has rocketed.
The Tories only know how to cut funding and how to drop the top tax rate for the rich.
Cameron and Osborne started the pain but the injuries are only just starting to show now.
The problem Labour have is that through Tory Blair and Bloodhound Brown, many areas of the UK (notably Scotland but others as well) now see Labour as little to no alternative to the Conservatives.
Thats the burning issue for Labour.
4 more years of Mother Teresa May and her hard brexit onslaught will strip this country back to it's bare bones and create the widest division between the poorer sections and the wealthy elite, since there was a feudal economy here.
 
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Teresa May doesn't want to front up to Corbyn on the box.
That is gutless.
She is miles ahead in the media polls and she's always talking about how Corbyn and Labour are dog tucker (and they probably are) yet she hasn't got the courage to front him up in a debate on the box.
Why?
She actively avoids confrontation. Most likely a decision encouraged by her management and 'spin' team.
She can only bully from a position of strength.
She's a weak speaker when it comes to debating outside of pre-written sound bytes and gets flustered when she has to think on her feet.

It's a shame for democracy because after listening to a Scottish sheila MP on Radio 4 from the SNP whose name I cannot recall, it was interesting to be reminded what happened when Thatcher was in for too long.
The cuts that created a plethora of homeless in the 80's. The long waits on the NHS for surgeries and dental appointments. The endless demonstrations and civil unrest. Since Cameron came in the number of food banks has rocketed.
The Tories only know how to cut funding and how to drop the top tax rate for the rich.
Cameron and Osborne started the pain but the injuries are only just starting to show now.
The problem Labour have is that through Tory Blair and Bloodhound Brown, many areas of the UK (notably Scotland but others as well) now see Labour as little to no alternative to the Conservatives.
Thats the burning issue for Labour.
4 more years of Mother Teresa May and her hard brexit onslaught will strip this country back to it's bare bones and create the widest division between the poorer sections and the wealthy elite, since there was a feudal economy here.

Corbyn is speaking to the poorest members of society and that is what he is best at ranting at injustice and inequality; he is not equipped to be a PM. He can't win this election under the current system, so his and Momemtum's aim is not to win this election, but to permanently transform the Labour Party to a Democratic Socialist party and create a social movement outside of Parliament, which in time they hope will overtake Parliament. The Labour Party is dead in this country for a generation.
 
I don;t know what is more maddening that we have to put up with people like Diane Abbott as Shadow home Secretary or that people genuinely want to stand up for her.

This entire election is reading like like taking a knife with both arms tied behind your back to a gunfight.

Ohhhh its the medias fault, great the systems rigged get over yourselves and go give the Toryies a bloody nose.
 
It was comedy gold, which is a shame because Labour had a point about reversing CGT cuts and funding something useful with the extra money. Still shows what a complete idiot Abbott is and shouldn't be anywhere near a position of Government, let alone Home Secretary.

To compound her incompetent interview she then tries to defend later on the Daily Politics show by saying she "misspoke" and did know the figures as she'd done six interviews that morning quoting them. Eh? How do you misspeak from it costing £300k to £80million for 10,000 officers then change from recruiting 10,000 officers to 250,000 officers then accuse Nick Ferrari of saying 250,000. At one point she mumbles 2000 and 250. It was totally nonsensical. So how many interviews/talks will she have to do in one day if she were to become Home Secretary - God forbid?

It was so funny how utterly incompetent this woman was and just totally undermines Labour's manifesto before it is even released and reinforces the idea that Labour are clueless in terms of funding all their policies.
 
I have never seen Diane Abbott show she is anything other than a completely incompetent, race card waver with a persecution complex. I really can't understand why Labour want her around as she is completely toxic, I don't know many left wingers who like her. It's a shame because with the way the country is, the Conservatives should be ****ting themselves about a possible election but Labour are so feeble there is literally no opposition to a Tory steamroller for the next decade. Lib Dems would normally have made up the numbers enough to worry the Conservatives but after they showed themselves to be a bunch of power mad, spineless traitors in the coalition, they will probably be keeping the seats warm for Labour in the chamber of political irrelevance. UKIP voters are now swinging overwhelmingly to the Conservatives.

If Brexit is managed like everything else the Conservatives have done it's going to be a lot of posturing with no substance, stumbling into a situation they don't know how to deal with with people who are completely incompetent and as usual the poorest in society will foot the bill while they feather their nests at the expense of the whole country.

You can sort of understand why people don't vote when the options are just ***** in different colours.
 
This country has suffered 6 years of cuts and the NHS has been savaged.
Another 4-5 years of Tory cuts and a hideous Brexit and this place won't be worth dog toilet.
You can rest assured that Teresa May is utterly incompetent at dealing with the quango of self entitled elitists in Brussels and they DO seek to punish the UK for leaving as an example to other countries that may deem to follow suit.
She has already blotted her copybook before negotiations have started. Here she is swanning around with yet another election
With her at the helm there will be no soft Brexit, the UK will be humbled with a vast bill, which May will not pay (because it's likely to be 50 billion) and then tarriffs will occur and business here will suffer, a lot.
The banks will up sticks in a heart beat. All the major companies have already sent forward groups into Dublin, Paris, Zurich, Frankfurt and Geneva.
Jp. Morgan, Goldman Sachs and co. they won't be hanging around on ceremony. The insurance giants will follow and Canary Wharf will be start ups, empty apartments and tumbleweed.
A transaction tax, or tariffs, or both will bury the City of London as we know it.
Multi-national corporations have no specific allegiance except to profit.
Keeping the city is essential to London and the UK.
Teresa May is carrying on like they can't go anywhere else.
Newsflash.
The bulk of the business done in the city of London is as a conduit for American dollars and investment from key players outside the EU, the states, China, Korea, Japan, the middle east and India.
Enormous amounts of money.... that will be gone in a heartbeat if there is a tarriff or transaction tax.
Gone into a different European conduit that doesn't have the tarriff or transaction tax.
European businesses will no longer have any desire to do their global business through London. They will be doing it through their local banking hub.

Suddenly the UK will have access to FULL corporate taxation on Google, Vodaphone, Costa, Starbucks, eBay and Paypal, Santander etc. all those buggers who have been avoiding taxation through the European loophole.
Will they stick around if they have to suck up another 20% cost hike?
They might try to pass it onto their customers but if that doesn't wash they will be gone as well.
All this drum beating and flag waving accompanied by worthless chat about 'strong and stable' leadership is about to become a vortex of conservative confusion and Junker and co will give thebig two fingers back to the Teresa May and say, " see you in 'A-Gin-Court' where you're sentence is an Italian lemon. That is an EU product so an extra 20% tarriff is applied to that and goodbye."
The self entitled ***** in Brussels are going to F**k the UK economy royally with tarriffs if Teresa May goes hard Brexit.
How many German car plants do part manufacture here in the UK, like the Mini factory?
Say goodbye to all those jobs with a European connection.
Toyota, Mazda, Hyundai, Kia, Mitsubishi, the list goes on of foreign manufacturers who will shun the UK when tarriffs are braceleted on the UK by the spiteful EU for being 'outside' the single market.
Junker and co. don't give a rats backside about European economic migrants in the UK. They are giving the UK cheap labour. Spain, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, the Baltic states, the UK is heaving with European ecomonic migrants that do the low income tasks like picking fruit and vegetables, working in bars, rubbish collection, hospital work, hotel trades, cleaners, labouring etc
Many businesses here rely on that cheap labour and favourable exchange rate.
To keep the cheap Labour here Teresa May will have to offer them British passports or... if they are punted... the price of the commodity will rise significantly and UK workers will have to be found, or the business goes bust. Benefits may have to be cut again to 'incentivise' the local proles to work the cheap labour options.
It's a disaster bomb that has started ticking and in two to three years time will explode.
All this talk about being the 4-6th biggest economy and how the free trade agreements are better than being inside the EU single market is better served inside Richard Bransons balloon.
Tough times are upon us and worse are coming up ahead.
As the conservatives thump yet more austerity on the middle and working classes civil unrest and crime will both rocket upward.
The UK can and will ride this out but it will be a very hard time for the majority of it's inhabitants for the next ten years.
Having abandoned the commonwealth in the 1970's, and failed to engage in world trade agreements, the UK is woefully short of negotiators to resolve the Brexit issue and though they are canvassing for around 1500 jobs in this area nobody of note wants to lift that poisoned chalice.
Why?
It's only a two year tenure and you can guarantee that Teresa May and co. will cast the negotiators as the bad guys who got us a 'bad deal' at the end of it.
Who in their right mind is going to want that stress and that black stain on their CV?
I see Osborne has removed himself from politics after he helped his partner get us into this absolute mess.
Cameron has become Mr Invisible.
It's so bad that Tony Blair, the war criminal has crawled out from under his rock and announced that he is coming back to UK politics to resolve the Brexit issue for us by getting us back into the EU.
Lets see a boxing match between him and Nigel Farage to take this farce to a reality tv world.
What a mess and we are being led into it by a moron who looks like the leader of the Undead, Nosferatu's sister.
I cannot vote for Teresa May.
She was appalling as the commisioner of Police, which is why we have a huge shortage of bobbies now, and she is a vampire.
All she does is suck the life out of functioning things.
RIP the NHS.
 
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Can someone take Jean-Claude Juncker and lock him in a cell somewhere. Every time he speaks I can feel votes running to Tory's......god I hate our political landscape currently.
 
It was such a stupid thing to say, typical French who can't accept that French isn't the lingua franca any more. English is not going to become less relevant in the EU because English isn't limited to Britain. I don't like the drivel May and the nationalists are spouting but that was absolutely ridiculous.
 
Juncker's just a bureaucrat and his comments are irrelevant. English is the first language of circa 350 million world wide and the second language of circa another 500 million. So not going to be Irrelevant anytime soon.
Merkel is the real power in the EU at the end of the day.
 
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Good post Jones boy. I didn't quote you for fear of taking up half the page.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if the desired final outcome is a softish Brexit or Norway style deal but May and the Tories can't say this right now and are trying to lull Brussels by playing the hard Brexit card as their opening position and the supposedly desired outcome. I think the UK will end up paying some kind of (highly excessive) fee in order to access the single market. It's very much a delicate balancing act in the sense that both sides need to leave the negotiations claiming they got a good deal with the EU needing to convince the other member states that the UK's exit deal is inferior to membership. When you think about the referendum result - 52 to 48, the fairest outcome that would best reflect the wishes of the electorate would be a very soft Brexit. I do think there's a good chance the outcome will be 'No deal' with some kind of impasse reached. How they move on from there goodness only knows. The whole thing has been a political train wreck from start to finish. Joe public (many of whom aren't savvy enough to cast an informed vote) were asked to make a monumental decision based on lies, BS and very little facts all because of some right wing toffs who pushed Cameron into holding the referendum.

Agree with your comments on May. Some call her calculating and stubborn but there's no denying that she's a coward. She was supposedly a remainer but went MIA during the referendum campaign and has now switched horses and turned into a Brexiteer. How can anyone respect a leader who makes such a dramatic shift.
 
Problem is Oggmonster is the Tories seam so far entrenched and Joe Public also being so refusing to hear any argument and being draped in the Union Flag of we'll do better cause we're brill and la La La I'm not listening. I'm unsure how we don't go down the no deal route.

Problem is I have no idea how bad the deal would have to be for no deal to be the preferable choice. It would take a monumentally poor negotiation to get to that point. Of course we'll blame those European foreigner who interfering in our election by saying exactly the right thing that'll make people vote Tory. As opposed to the Australian one who gets his papers to convince people to vote Tory....
 
The Brexit vote went through because there is a very large proportion of the population in Britain who are not happy at feeling they have no voice acting on their behalf in Westminster.
It wasn't the NHS funding fallacy
It wasn't Toady Farage.
It wasn't immigration.
It wasn't even David Cameron's absolutely incompetent efforts (the worst campaign I've ever seen in the 4 countries I've lived in) to convince the remainers to get out and vote.

It was an opportunity to punch politicians in the eye.
The public took it.
I believe Cameron was a weak minded fool for ever agreeing to a referendum. If the jellyfish had a spine he simply would have renegged on the deal with Ukip and they could have done nothing about it.
After his near loss in the Jock independence referendum he thought he was bulletproof. He couldn't believe the British public would vote against his rich mates desires and the power of the media machine. He clearly had no idea of the scale of the division that was to create a rift valley in the Conservative party, or that Gove would eventually implode in a venal plot to gain the leadership, scuppering Boris' chances in the process. It's the only act as an MP that Michael Gove has ever conceived that did the public a favour. As if Ian Hislop hasn't got enough material to work with in Diane Abbot. Boris as Tory leader?
Comedic value only.
 
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