A Political Thread

[Peat]

What evidence do you have for this being the case with those protesting Trump? Like, actual evidence, not just you thinking that's how the world works.

And we all make actions based on predictions. Why on earth shouldn't people protest based on predictions? Or the appointment of a man with his past record of misusing power?

 

[Groundhog]

Trump anti globalist and not an elite hahahahahahahaha. I don't mind people calling Trump the lesser of two evils, but come on. The global warming denying cheeto is the definition of a globalist with his factories in China and he's worth 3.7 billion dollars. Putins knob is about to smell a lot like Trump's ****. His cabinet picks are already getting embarrassed. I almost respect Trump because it's almost as if he decided "why not let's run" and he won with the most simple and vague message of all time, although it must be said he was running against a total incompetent and nightmare candidate in Clinton.

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As long as they're not an ethnic minority, homosexual, in a trade reliant on global trade, reliant on subsidised medical care, or just at risk from global warming.

That is quite a lot of people though...

Lol triggered much? Look at this offended cuck. Want me to find you some crayons and a safe space libtard?
Thought I'd just give you the standard response that comment would inevitably get you by the basement dwelling socially marginalized nobody with a confederate flag as his profile picture on any given Facebook page.

 

[The Jones Boy]

As long as they're not an ethnic minority, homosexual, in a trade reliant on global trade, reliant on subsidised medical care, or just at risk from global warming.

That is quite a lot of people though...

Valid point.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

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Lol triggered much? Look at this offended cuck. Want me to find you some crayons and a safe space libtard?
Thought I'd just give you the standard response that comment would inevitably get you by the basement dwelling socially marginalized nobody with a confederate flag as his profile picture on any given Facebook page.

so Alpha Bro?

 

[munstermuffin]

A lot of the problem is to do with the internet and social media. Online disinhibition means people are talking to each other on the internet without the respect that people generally give one another in person, and those attitudes are seeping into politics and the media. It's not a new phenomenon, but the explosion in social media over the last 10 years means it's more widespread than ever before.


Politics doesn't begin and end on polling day. They aren't protesting Trump being elected, they are protesting what Trump represents.


How are you able to tell that most of the protesters are unemployed? Please can you back up that assertion with some evidence? To my knowledge, they are mostly students and people protesting on days off work, or on the weekend.


Most people are though. It's fairly disingenuous to try and paint all leftists and protesters with the brush of the violent few.

I think you got mixed up a bit J'nuh.
I am not slating anyone who protests what Trump represents but more why violence and smashing cars etc.

On my unemployment comment I was referring to Ireland where they proven it by a polls and research in Ireland.

 

[The Jones Boy]

Munster, you are getting caught up in what the media wants you to see.
Half a dozen numpties getting anarchistic on a couple of vehicles, that is not news, why can't we hear from the hundreds of thousands of good folk out there protesting against the ongoing austerity, the widening of the gap between the 1 % and the rest of us

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

I think you got mixed up a bit J'nuh.
I am not slating anyone who protests what Trump represents but more why violence and smashing cars etc.

On my unemployment comment I was referring to Ireland where they proven it by a polls and research in Ireland.

don't the structurally and cyclically unemployed have the most reasons to protest?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Hillary got something crazy like 3 million more votes than Trump, as well, so I imagine some of the protest is about the way the votes are decided.

 

[munstermuffin]

don't the structurally and cyclically unemployed have the most reasons to protest?

They do 100%. My point was just there are a group that protest whatever the flavour of month is and it does no favours for genuine people who protest correctly and have the subject at heart

 

[Peat]

Munster, you are getting caught up in what the media wants you to see.
Half a dozen numpties getting anarchistic on a couple of vehicles, that is not news, why can't we hear from the hundreds of thousands of good folk out there protesting against the ongoing austerity, the widening of the gap between the 1 % and the rest of us

Truth.

 

[munstermuffin]

Munster, you are getting caught up in what the media wants you to see.
Half a dozen numpties getting anarchistic on a couple of vehicles, that is not news, why can't we hear from the hundreds of thousands of good folk out there protesting against the ongoing austerity, the widening of the gap between the 1 % and the rest of us

Thats kind of my point Jones they are minority possibly but they take away from genuine. Again you are right peaceful protest don't getbsame coverage as vandalism

 

[The Jones Boy]

Why is that?
Because it happens overtime there is a protest.
Is it because the camera teams are pre-primed to hunt out any disturbances?
Why would that be?
Surely it couldn't be a standard technique used to take the spotlight away from the hundreds of thousands of peaceful protesters.
So who owns and controls the media?
Hmmm...

 

[munstermuffin]

Why is that?
Because it happens overtime there is a protest.
Is it because the camera teams are pre-primed to hunt out any disturbances?
Why would that be?
Surely it couldn't be a standard technique used to take the spotlight away from the hundreds of thousands of peaceful protesters.
So who owns and controls the media?
Hmmm...

Possibly but I heard this morning some of trouble makers are paid over in USA to cause a stir.

Now look I won't pretend I know much of ins and outs. And agree as our local broadcaster here will only show protests that suit their agenda. But it can't all be just put down to media. I think the world over respect for authority is being lost slightly and the base of law and politics is changing a bit

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Possibly but I heard this morning some of trouble makers are paid over in USA to cause a stir.

Now look I won't pretend I know much of ins and outs. And agree as our local broadcaster here will only show protests that suit their agenda. But it can't all be just put down to media. I think the world over respect for authority is being lost slightly and the base of law and politics is changing a bit

So protestors being paid=bad

Politicians being paid by outside interest groups=fine

 

[j'nuh]

Possibly but I heard this morning some of trouble makers are paid over in USA to cause a stir.

Evidence? By who? For what motive?

Now look I won't pretend I know much of ins and outs. And agree as our local broadcaster here will only show protests that suit their agenda. But it can't all be just put down to media. I think the world over respect for authority is being lost slightly and the base of law and politics is changing a bit

Respect for authority is being lost because of a lack of trust in authority figures. In the UK, there's a fairly decent relationship between police and public because our police are generally quite peaceful and helpful. Contrast to USA where the police are being increasingly militarised over 40 years and are regularly involved in brutality particularly against ethnic minorities.

 

[ncurd]

This is getting depressing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38707722

Don't know how well things will go if Trump spends 4 years denying any story and yelling fake news every time aedit story doesn't portray him in a brilliant light. The problem is people actually believe him....

I will state I do believe most media outlets are openly against him......however that's more because he's genuinely horrible and quite probably dangerous than some grand left wing conspiracy.

 

[Groundhog]

Hahaha how old is he? What a pathetic little manchild to have his feelings hurt by his tiny little crowd and his tiny hands. He's been in the White House a day and he's making a laughing stock out of himself.

 

[ratsapprentice]

I will state I do believe most media outlets are openly against him......however that's more because he's genuinely horrible and quite probably dangerous than some grand left wing conspiracy.

Isn't that literally, ya know... a grand conspiracy.

Regardless of reasoning.

 

[Groundhog]

Isn't that literally, ya know... a grand conspiracy.

Regardless of reasoning.

I think a grand conspiracy would have to be A: Co-ordinated between outles and B: Pushed by some higher power, rather than fundamentally left-wing journalists individually expressing their disgust at the "leader of the free world" going all Kim Jong Un about something as petty as crowd sizes. Besides American media doesn't even pretend to be bi-partisan, which in some ways is probably for the best, because you know exactly what you get, but I can tell you even some conservative media outlets are scratching their heads at this.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Don't think it needs to be pushed by any one power, and the co-ordination could be as ambiguous as a metaphorical nod and a wink.

It's hardly the Vatican covering up kiddy-fiddling, but I think there's legitimate grounds to describe it as a conspiracy.

The Ying to the Birthers' Yang? (not the subject/basis for the coverage, just the fact that it's one side going after the other, I'm not making any arguments as to the validity of any coverage)